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eleonora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:13 PM
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Woodruff filed a bill to make abortion illegal in IN, period
I got this from Planned Parenthood today:

Today, Rep. Troy Woodruff filed a bill to make abortion illegal in Indiana.

HB 1096 would sentence doctors convicted of performing abortions to two- to eight-year prison terms.

This is not a drill. This is an outright abortion ban.

Tell your legislator you want to make your own decisions about when and if you become a parent!


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Scary how backward right-wing fundie Indiana is these days. Damn I hate where I live!

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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:19 PM
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1. Troy must think Indiana is a separate country
ruled by fundamentalists and that the Constitution and US law does not apply to Hoosiers. Dumbass.
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ewoden Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:21 PM
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2. Perhaps he's setting the stage for
a new Supreme Court deliberation on the matter.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 10:23 PM
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7. You are right - see my post below w/ link
In this case I'm sorry you are right.

:hi:
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:28 PM
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3. Have they lost their copy of the Constitution? n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:32 PM
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4. Women are chattel/toys/rape victims.
God determines their fate. God is a man. If He didn't want you to have a baby you would not be pregnant. His Will be done. The child will live at all costs. You don't count. You should just thank God and men that they enabled you to fulfill God's mission for you: Motherhood

Freeper off.

I am outraged. This is supposed to be America, the land of the free. Indiana evidently is up front in wanting to be a theocratic state. I hope you from Indiana fight like hell.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:57 PM
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5. Isn't that the state that wanted you to get a certificate
proclaiming eligibility for parenting based on marital status, income, and taking a course?
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:36 AM
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9. Only if you required technical assistance
I.E., IVF or artificial insemination.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 10:22 PM
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6. Here's a link you might find useful
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060105/NEWS02/601050487

IndyStar.com Local News Politics

January 5, 2006
Lawmaker aims to stamp out abortion

(snip)
Abortion would be outlawed in Indiana unless necessary to preserve the life and health of the mother under a bill filed today by Rep. Troy Woodruff, R-Vincennes.

The measure, House Bill 1096, would define life as beginning at conception, and make it a Class C felony, punishable by up to eight years in prison, to perform an abortion. There would be no exceptions for victims of rape or incest.

Woodruff said he thinks the bill would pass the legislature overwhelmingly if put to a vote. If the abortion ban becomes law, he said it could end up before the U.S. Supreme Court as a possible venue to overturn the landmark 1973 Roe versus Wade case, which legalized abortion.


And BTW, unless you live in Indy vicinity or other populated areas, IN has always been extremely right-wing fundy. Have you forgotten about the (still active) KKK? That's just the tip of the iceberg?

I do agree with you, though, this is one terrible bill. :(
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 02:07 AM
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8. This bill, if it passes, might be a good test case for SCOTUS.
All the more reason to filibuster Scalito. I would hate to see the notoriety Indiana would get from this however.
As far as all of rural Indiana being totally fundie I beg to disagree. It depends on the community. I've lived in 3 large towns (Indy, Fort Wayne, & Evansville - the latter being the most "fundie." But I have also lived in 4 small Indiana towns: Jasper (very liberal for being 90% Catholic!, and heavily democratic); Peru (tilts liberal - about 50/50 politically + a few fundie churches that stir the abortion/gays/porn issue up every 3 years; Madison (I considered it Lib/Dem but the conservative churches wield a lot of power and can block progressive ideas); and Marion - heavily fundie and a latent KKK attitude/race relations (but has a liberal newspaper-go figger). Peru & Madison had great race relations, and Jasper had no blacks but that doesnt mean they were welcome.
I would welcome other Hoosiers' views on their community.
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 12:53 AM
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12. I grew up in Mexico, Kokomo and Greentown
and still have family there. Last time I was in Mexico, I noted that it had gone pretty liberal, considering the community; that may have to do with the dearth of jobs and opportunity. (My great aunt lives in Peru, and talks about the liberal side much more than the other.)

Kokomo and Greentown are pretty solidly liberal, considering that the former is a union town and the latter is a farming town and bedroom community for Kokomo. I know only one person in either area who considers himself anything other than a moderate Dem/liberal; he's a cousin and he was dropped as a small child. (Not seriously; he's always been an asshole and the only reason my grandfather didn't write him out of the will for being a Republican is that he didn't want to have the rest of the will contested.)

Everyone I've talked to starts off the conversation with "Can you believe this Alito asshole?" and then goes on to bitch about the idiots from elsewhere in the state (the consensus seems to be that the asshatry comes from the southern part of the state) that are effing up the state government.

However, the caveat is that my family is old-time Dem - no one in the family has ever been anything else and while my father has some Lyndon LaRouche tendencies, even he is strongly Dem when we get down to brass tacks.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:07 PM
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10. For more ...
See here:

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/jan/06010604.html
(Forgive the nasty link!)

Woodruff said he hopes the bill will go to committee; if passed the bill would no doubt be repealed by the courts, at which point, Woodruff said the law could go to the Supreme Court, where Roe v. Wade has not yet been challenged by the court’s new members.

“Also the people have never had an opportunity (through their representatives) to vote on the matter,” he said, as reported by the Evansville Courier & Press. The new law proposes to make abortion a Class C felony, which carries a two- to eight-year prison sentence. Woodruff added an exception for women whose pregnancy posed a risk of “substantial permanent impairment of the life or physical health of the pregnant woman.”

Chairman of the House Public Policy and Veterans Affairs Committee Marlin Stutzman said that, although “The bill is very close to my heart,” he was unsure if he would be able to schedule a hearing for the issue.
(Courts do not "repeal" legislation, they strike it down. A legislator who uses expressions like that is either a complete moron or engaged in something other than frank discourse.)

Indiana is also the birthplace of Karen Brauer (that KMart pharmacist) and her little Pharmacists for Life project:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200503300002

The link to the article quoted above came from her site:
http://www.pfli.org/


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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:37 PM
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11. Setting the stage for Alito confirmation
Will go to the Supremes, among other RED STATE bans.
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