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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 12:12 PM
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Any Pats fans finding it hard to root against the Eagles?
I am. It's that whole Brotherhood/Sisterhood of Sports Suffering thing. Granted, Philly has nothing going on to compare to the recently-retired eons of despair Sox fans endured, but still. They've been through the wringer across the board. Remember Wild Thing in '93? That's what I'm talking about.

Yeah, Philly fans are loud and arrogant and full of swagger. But so are New England fans, and until very very recently, that swagger had no basis in reality.

So I'm rooting for the Pats like crazy, but I will wear the bunny suit happily if it goes the other way.

Cheers, Iggles fans. :toast:

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 12:18 PM
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1. right here
i won't sLeep on phiLLy (they're good). i aLso wouLd be happy if the eagLes won - we have an affinity for phiLLy here; common sports heartache, new york inferiority compLexes, and rabid wrassLin fans.

but in the end, i think the pats wiLL win. i'd Like to see a good game though, and not another bLowout.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 12:19 PM
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2. The Pats have a way
Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 12:19 PM by WilliamPitt
of being involved in nail-biter Super Bowls. It could be argued that their last two trips were two of the best SBs ever played.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 06:04 PM
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27. Cool. Another sports fan.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:12 AM
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28. of course
:D
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 12:23 PM
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3. 40 Year Eagle Fan Here
And thank you for the truly sporting comments. I will be at the edge of my seat for the Eagles during the Super Bowl, but allow a digression. I was ranting and raving for the Patriots against the Steelers Sunday night. XXXIX should be a truly SUPER Bowl.

Actually, Sunday was a rather sedate affair for Eagles and Patriot Fans. Too bad the Super Bowl won't be played in Green Bay.
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mdhunter Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 12:25 PM
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4. 2nd all that
As a Philadelphia native, and current Boston resident, I found myself (perhaps against my better judgment) rooting for the Pats.

Sure it'll be a tougher game, but you want to play the best. Now, to find a Philadelphia friendly bar in town...
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 12:29 PM
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5. You mention Wild Thing in 93
How about being a ten year old with a transistor radio in 1964 listening to your favorite teams games long after bedtime. Your Phillies are up six games with ten to go. You live six blocks from Connie Mack Stadium. World Series Tickets are going on sale. Your Grandfather is an usher at the stadium and is assured at least two tickets to the series. I'm still traumatized.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 12:33 PM
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6. I remember that season vividly
Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 12:33 PM by WilliamPitt
because I was living next to two Philly guys at the time. When that one player tore his shirt off at home plate and flexed until his eyes popped out onto his cheeks after the Phillies won the pennant that year, I thought it epitomized Philadelphia sports, because my neighbors were doing the exact same thing. :)
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 06:51 PM
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13. I was a tiny thing
and every night, when my dad came home from work and woke me up to say goodnight (he worked late, and otherwise he wouldn't see me from Sun-Sat) I'd ask "did the Phillies win tonight?"

That year was a hard one for him to explain.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 12:34 PM
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7. I'm a Yankee fan who rooted for the Red Sox this year
Course, it was part of the whole what's good for some in Boston might be good for the ONE - didn't pan out tho.
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sportndandy Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 02:55 PM
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8. Be proud to cheer for the Patriots
Eagle Fans are thrilled to be playing the Patriots. Got to beat the best to be the best, and dammit if the patriots want to be the best they are going to have to beat the Eagles.


l'chaim :toast:
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 03:47 PM
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9. as a Jets fan, I'm rooting for the rare Superbowl tie
and the even more rare - Lombardi Trophy awarded to best team that didn't make the superbowl - THE NEW YORK JETS!!!!

<sigh>
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 05:03 PM
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10. Nope
I'm enjoying our time in the sun. It will come for the fans in Philly. Just not this year.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 05:47 PM
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11. me too

I think Belichick & Co have already accomplished this season what they set out to do- really do in all that Seventies/Eighties egotistical white man machismo that got thrown against them around the NFL after that '02 playoff run. I swear I've tried to look at it as a sports fan rather than with a political lens, but in the end it's their confident competence and Fairly Humble Jock/Team Player approach and the no felonies or big messes/private-life-stays-private discipline that agitated and annoyed a bunch of the older coaching folk and middle-aged retired players 'n' football comentariat. (The actual players are relatively innocent in this fight.) In the view of these older guys the world was going wrong if the Superbowl MVP wasn't a loudmouth prima donna and the championship team wasn't hard at work avoiding court dates and making headlines by escaping drug busts and involvement in paternity suits and spousal abuse complaints.

I dunno, for me this gang of Patriots has nothing left to prove. Short of a grotesque scandal, whatever happens in Jacksonville doesn't change anything now. And Phillie fans- wild, undisciplined, frustrated, manic-depressive at times- don't walk about with a sense of entitlement. Just ol' homerism and swagger and a sense of having gotten lucky- and part of having gotten lucky is pretending otherwise with a wink. I'll be happy for them if their Iggles get away with this one. This SB is a glorified neighborhood game in the park, not an Eighties in-your-face egoprancing on a national stage.



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sportndandy Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 06:24 PM
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12. You guys are suckers.
You think because the Eagles were in the NFC they are inferior. What a joke. Andy Reid has some surprises for you I am sure. Its going to be a high scoring game, and most of them will go to the Eagles. And no, I don't feel the least bit sorry for the disappointment patriot fans will have when they wake to find their illusions of "dynasty" have been shattered.

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:50 AM
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15. sooooo
are you going to cry? or smash your tv when the iggLes get their Lunch handed to them?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:03 AM
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17. No one said the Eagles were inferior
No team with Donovan McNabb, Brian Westbrook, AND Terrell Owens is to be underestimated. We just find it hard to root against them because we remember what it was like to just look for a little respect back in 2001. Geez.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 06:09 PM
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14. You should never feel bad for eagles fans
They are the only fans that have forced authorities to set up a court below the stadium to arraign them for their criminal behavior. They attacked the families of the other teams at the stadium. It is a despicable group of fans. They don't deserve to ever win.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:57 PM
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18. And the New York fans are so lovely when they come to Phila
Sat in front of two Mets fans several years ago at a Phillies game at the old Vet

They cursed and screamed during the whole game - all nine innings - and made the game miserable for anyone within hearing distance.

But God is Good.

My girlfriend and I were stopped on Broad Street on the way home from the game, and who pulls up beside us two cute girls (this was several years ago) but The Terroristic Mets Fans.

Asking us directions to 95.

As I said, God is indeed Good.

My girlfriend smiled sweetly at them, and sent them into the depths of North Philadelphia, where they are still probably driving around right now. We smiled the whole ride home, even though the Phils did lose.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 02:52 PM
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26. Don't confuse Mets fans with other NY fans
Mets fans are in a state of surrealism that leads them to believe not only that the Mets SHOULD win the World Series every year but that there is a conspiracy to rob them of it.

As a long time Giants fan who has been going to games since the Yale Bowl I have to say I enjoy the games at home when the Philly fans come up (ditto the Skins). They know their football and are just as passionate about it as Giants fans and I've never had a problem with them, even sitting next to them sometimes.

Most trouble in Giants Stadium always occurs when the Giants play the Vikings and some drunk Giant fan tries to pull those handy horns off a Viking fan's hat and all hell breaks loose.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:07 AM
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29. Revenge is sweet.
However, if sent to North Philly, they probably got their car stripped if they stopped at a red light.
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BBradley Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:13 PM
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19. Because that never happens at other football games
No sports team ever deserves to win if that's the litmus test.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 07:36 AM
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21. S.O.S. Different Thread
:kick: New Material;Try some!
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:01 AM
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16. It's funny, cause I am too
It's not like the Colts or even the Steelers...we sorta shared a common ground as far as sports frustration. Cheers, Philly fans--Super Bowl XXXIX is gonna be a HELL of a ride.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:08 AM
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20. The only reason I won't be rooting for the Pats
is because I like to root for the underdog.

It's hard for me to imagine the Pats up there with the Steelers and the Cowboys and the 49ers, but that's exactly where they belong if they get it done again.

Still.... Go Eagles.
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:12 PM
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22. That's very sportmanslike of you.
As for me, I hate the Pats. Hate 'em. I hope the Eagles lead the game until the 4th quarter, when suddenly the Pats rally to an improbable comeback and tie the game. You and the other Pats fans at home become giddy with the excitement of going into overtime. Everyone's on the edge of their seats.

Then, with just seconds left on the clock, the Eagles kick a field goal, the time runs out, and THE GAMES OVER! EAGLES WIN! WOOOO HOOOOOOO.

I'm a Rams fan. But I'm not bitter about losing that way to the Pats a few years ago or anything. Not at all.

GO EAGLES!!!!!

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Sufi Marmot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 02:09 AM
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23. Fuck, no...
I suffered Hugh Millen, James Orthwein, Victor Kiam, Scott Scisson, Dick MacPherson, Ben Dreith, Jack Tatum, Lisa Olson, Parcells' egomaniacal hissy fits, Irving Fryar, the Superbowl Shuffle, and all those crappy draft picks (remember Kenneth Sims?) I was in the stadium the night they rallied to beat Miami in what we thought was going to be the last game ever in Foxboro, when Orthwein was threatening to move to St. Louis...I'm going to enjoy every moment of this inexplicable Golden Era of New England Patriots Football guilt-free - endure enough 2-14 seasons and you earn that right...

-SM, happy his old man is still alive to see it...


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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:56 AM
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24. Let's face it. It's Schadenfreude
We just want to Limbaugh eat the egg off his face.

Donovan McNabb is a quarterback who knows how to handle a heavy Rush.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 02:32 PM
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25. As a Bostonian and a Patriots Fan, GO PATS........
That being said, I lived in Philadelphia from 1988-1990. I love Philadelphia, the Eagles, Sixers and the Phillies (sorry Flyers, get your hockey house in order). I would love to see the Eagles win, however, they are playing the Patriots and the Patriots must win.

The fans in Philly (I hate saying Philly) can be very tough. I experienced that first hand at the Phillies-Braves Game 6 when the Phillies captured the National League pennant (1993). I flew down from Boston, scalped a ticket at the Vet and settled in for the game. At the top of the 1st, so southern woman came in and plopped down next to me. She was a stewardess who was from Atlanta and had bought a scalped ticket too. The jeers started as soon as she started cheering the Braves. "Hanoi Jane" was what they called her. I spoke with security who did NOTHING. She left crying at the top of the 7th. I was actually happy, figuring that they would shut the Fuck up for the rest of the game. Sadly, I was dubbed "Skippy" and taunted a bit. Luckily the Phillies won and I was not harassed as much. That incident has always bothered me.

GO PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I should be a good game.

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