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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:57 PM
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The NFL better BURY Haynesworth
from the Titans. He kicked a Dallas player in the head who was on the ground and whose helmet had come off. This better be the biggest fine and longest suspension EVER. The man is pond scum.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:43 PM
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1. Was the Cowboy injured?
Injury or not should not matter in punishment,it should be intent.
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:07 PM
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2. He returned to the sideline. The report was that he received
several stitches. The sportscasters were saying that because the game was on natural grass, the players would be wearing spikes and not rubber-soled shoes.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:15 PM
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3. If he was wearing spikes...
that only makes it worse. The man obviously has issues. And I think the NFL should give him the opportunity to spend a LOT of time with nothing to do but work on them.
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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:51 PM
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5. This is outrageous.
Reporter on the story (Peter King) said tonight that Haynesworth would probably receive a $25,000 fine and NO SUSPENSION AT ALL.

Say what??? :wtf:

The offense was so bad that programs showing highlights don't seem to even want to give us a good look at the replay!

Apparently Titans' coach Fisher ran over to Parcells immediately after the game and told him if the League didn't punish Haynesworth sufficiently then he would.

I agree with Chris Collingsworth -- they should have dragged the bastard off in handcuffs for assault.

:puke:


Update: Just read an article at ESPN site saying Haynesworth apologized, called his own act "disgusting," said he is "not a dirty player."

Naw, cleats to the head resulting in stitches and blurring the vision of your victim isn't dirty at all -- it's all just part of the game. What a prick.

Gurode wasn't able to play the rest of the second half. Said he'd never had anything like that happen to him before or ever SEEN anything like that happen before to anyone!

Actually, neither have I....


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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:55 PM
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6. How much money does he make?
I'm that's a little more than pocket change, even for a pro athelete, but for this kind of thing it seems awfully light.

And no suspension? He should be out for the rest of the season.

I really hope King got that wrong.
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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:54 PM
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7. Don't know how much he makes
but King seemed to feel $25K was a "hefty fine," I think is how he put it.

Not hefty enough to suit me!

Did a bit of checking to get some background on the guy, and he's had at least one "incident" that spoke worlds to me. In May of this year he tried to run an old lady off the highway with his car. Haynesworth was arrested and charged with reckless endangerment. Don't know how it was adjudicated.

He was also apparently considered to be a "problem child" after the Titans drafted him in 2002 (1st round draft pick, 15th). His stats show him as 6'6" and 320 lbs. One report I read on the incident today said that Haynesworth actually kicked Gurode's helmet off in the first place before stomping him in the face -- twice. Gurode also said the two had NOT had any words on the field or anything like that preceding the incident.

I'm going to be following this latest story from today's game to see how the punishment is handled because this really is just over-the-top.


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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:00 PM
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8. He sounds like a man with issues
I hope he is able to resolve them.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:26 PM
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4. 30 stitches
that's quite a gash.

He should be brought up on Assault charges.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:44 AM
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9. He should be suspended for the rest of the season, without pay. nt
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:35 PM
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10. looks like a 5 game suspension...
biggest on-field disciplinary action in NFL history, ESPN.com reports.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:38 PM
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11. Even that seems light
I am old enough to remember when Juan Marichal took a baseball bat to John Roseboro. Marichal was fined $1750 (star baseball players made about $50K/yr in 1965) and suspended for 8 games.

This seems to go beyond that incident.

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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:29 PM
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12. 5 games is a larger percentage of a season for this guy...
although I would not have argued if a tougher penalty was handed down. I think what helped him was that he seemed genuinely remorseful afterwards.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:41 AM
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13. 5 games in the NFL is one-third of the season, while a pitcher would miss
about two starts with an 8-game suspension.

Personally, though, I think he should have been suspended for the season.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:30 PM
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14. Marichal's punishment was much stronger then than it would be now
Five-man rotations are the order of the day now. In 1965, three-man rotations were the norm, especially down the stretch (the incident for which Marichal was punished occurred on August 22). In addition to the eight games, Marichal was not allowed to pitch in the two-game series against the Dodgers on Labor Day weekend.

The $1750 Marichal doesn't sound like much now, but at the time a star pitcher like Marichal would make about $50K/yr, not the multi-year/multi-million dollar contracts even mediocre players make now. At the start of the 1965 season, Willie Mays was the highest-paid player in baseball; he made $120K/yr; Micky Mantle was the only $100K player and Sandy Koufax would join them at the end of the 1965 season. If memory serves me correctly, Marichal's fine was the largest handed out to a baseball player to that date and the length of the suspension was also among the longest. Put together, this was considered the most severe penalty handed out to a player since the 1919 Black Sox scandal.

Marichal missed at least two, maybe three starts as a result of the punishment. The Giants finished two games behind the Dodgers.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:39 PM
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15. well, this comes out to 5/17ths of his annual salary
or a total of 190,000 or so, just under a third of his annual pay.
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smtpgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:42 PM
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16. That guy was sorry for NOTHING!!!
you don't kick a man's head without a HELMET!!!!!

Asshole, he should have been suspended for the whole season!!

Fuck the NFL!!!! What were they thinking, oh Let all the players take HgH!!


Oh well, Redskins 21, Giants 20
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smtpgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:42 PM
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17. That guy was sorry for NOTHING!!!
you don't kick a man's head without a HELMET!!!!!

Asshole, he should have been suspended for the whole season!!

Fuck the NFL!!!! What were they thinking, oh Let all the players take HgH!!


Oh well, Redskins 21, Giants 20
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:41 AM
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18. Dallas center Andre Gurod isn't pressing civil charges
Wonder why?
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 06:29 PM
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19. Haynesworth
should be suspended for the season.
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