Boise's Petersen calls for end to BCS

[El Supremo]

BOISE, Idaho (AP)—Boise State football coach Chris Petersen is calling for an end to the current Bowl Championship Series system after the No. 7 Broncos were left out of the high-profile games.

The Broncos (11-1) accepted an invitation to the MAACO Bowl in Vegas on Sunday. It’s the fourth time the Broncos have finished in the top 10 of the BCS without getting a bid to one of the elite match-ups. This year, they were passed over along with Nos. 6 Arkansas, 8 Kansas State and 9 South Carolina.

During a press conference Monday, Petersen said people are frustrated and tired of the BCS, the Idaho Statesman (http://bit.ly/umPHCJ ) reported. Petersen also said the system needs to be changed, perhaps by using a committee like the men’s basketball tournament to rank the teams.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-t25-bcs-petersen

:applause:

[Condem]

1. How is a 7-5 Iowa playing a 9-3 Oklahoma?

The whole fucking system is beyond repair. It's beyond me.

[El Supremo]

4. That ain't a BCS Bowl.

It was up to Insight Bowl Committee. That is a whole other problem.

[trumad]

2. I call for an end

For teams with cupcake schedules who play in bowl games.

[El Supremo]

3. HORSESHIT!

Boise State wasn't even a Division One team (or whatever they call it now) until recently. So sure they play in a Non-AQ league. It won't be forever.

[trumad]

8. LOL

I call it as I see it.

It was seriously a schedule full of cupcakes.

[hughee99]

16. But how do you take the Automatic bid away from the Big East? n/t

[trumad]

18. I agree

look--- without playoffs this debate will rage forever.

I do think there is merit in tougher schedules being rewarded.

I scanned the Boise State schedule thoroughly and I'm stunned at how easy it was this past season.

[jakefrep]

33. BCS - the just reward for jocks for stuffing nerds into trashcans.

nt.

[HuckleB]

34. Woo hoo!

:woohoo:

[madinmaryland]

5. You know. When you guys get in a real conference and stop playing a MAC-lite

schedule, then you will get taken seriously.

[KamaAina]

6. Arkansas was not "passed over"

the rules state that no more than two teams from any one conference can go to the BCS, in this case, LSU (yay!) and Alabama (boo!).

Baylor, on the other hand, was passed over, along with K-State.

[hughee99]

17. Yes, Arkansas and South Carolina were "victims" of the SEC's success.

but Baylor and K-State got screwed for V-Tech and Michigan.

[4lbs]

7. The only reason why there is no playoff in Division I is because they haven't figured out how to

"pay" schools for playing football, like the bowl games do now.

In the current bowl game system, approximately 64 schools get "paid" to play in 32 bowl games. From several hundred thousand dollars for being a very low-tier bowl game, to around $15 million for one of the top 5 bowl games (Orange Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Rose Bowl, BCS Championship).


In a playoff system that takes the top 8, 10, 12 or 16, how do you figure who gets paid what, and do they get paid more the more playoff games they play? What about the lower 48+ schools that would have gotten some monies in the current bowl game system, but now are not because they aren't playing a playoff system?

I support a playoff system, and find it very interesting that Division I football is the only college sport that doesn't have a playoff or tournament to determine a national champion.

Any reason other than money is laughed off when one considers that Division I-AA, II, and III football programs do have a playoff system (called the FCS).

[HuckleB]

36. Doesn't the bowl money get divided among conference teams?

:shrug:

[Lasher]

41. Yes.

Conferences pool money from all of their bowl appearances, pay expenses to the teams that played in them, then divide the rest among all their schools.

Each BCS bowl has a payout of $17 million this year. The national championship bowl pays $18 million. The lowest amount for any bowl game this year is $500 thousand. Conferences probably lost money on those games.

http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl_games_bowl_schedule.html

[Capt. America]

9. I second his motion. I believe Delaney wants to get rid of all automatic

league/bowl affiliations. He wants to let any bowl (other than title game) pick whichever teams they want.

[Upton]

10. BCS needs to end..

can someone tell me what #11 Virginia Tech and #13 Michigan are doing playing in a BCS bowl? Shouldn't those prime positions be reserved solely for automatically qualifiers and at large teams with the highest rankings?

Look how this system has screwed things up. VT loses by 28 points and gets rewarded with a BCS bowl bid. And the second best team in the Big 10 is Michigan State, not Michigan. Was I imagining things or didn't MSU beat and finish ahead of the Wolverines in the conference? The Spartans actually got punished for playing and losing in a Big 10 championship game that could have gone either way..

[Condem]

11. +2,643,289.

But it ain't going to happen.

[joeybee12]

12. It needs to end...it won't because it's all about money...the only way to get it

to end is if state attorney generals sue the shit out the BCS.

[hughee99]

20. It is about money, but if they can figure out a playoff system

that generates more money, they'll try to go to that. I think the biggest issue there is that the Bowl committees don't want to see their bowl relegated to "semi-finals", and it's the Bowl committees that are the problem.

[joeybee12]

21. Again, money....those bowls themselves make a lot of money

And they all want to be at the highest tier...there's the prestige, also....but if there are 4 BCS bowls and one "championship" bowl like it is now...and only an 8-team play-off, it should be easy to just make minor adjustments.

[Renew Deal]

13. They can use any system they want to rank teams....

But until there is a playoff, it won't really be fair.

[Auggie]

14. You all want it to end? Stop watching!

[Condem]

15. Might as well just seal all the windows and turn on the gas....

...life without college football just ain't worth livin'. I think Clint Eastwood said that.

[Auggie]

23. I got it: Occupy BCS!

[Capt. America]

31. Truer words never spoken.

[Awsi Dooger]

19. The current system rewards mass ignorance among fans and media

Boise State destroys mid level teams routinely. There is a considerable burden to that accomplishment. That's why their power rating is so astronomical, and has been that way for years. The most dense fans I've ever encountered on the college football message boards thrill to assert that any Top 25 team could run the table with Boise State's schedule, and win by the same margins. It's such simpleton poppycock I wonder how they get by in day to day life, without mistaking a pepper shaker for something that can bake a turkey. Those teams are 7-14 points worse than Boise State in power rating, which means the vulnerability soars game after game. You can't merely look at Boise's margins and subtract 7-14 points, which is something fools love to do when I provide the numbers. The more middling the team the greater the regularity of sub par efforts, leading to upsets. If you gave those teams Boise State's schedule their season win over/under would be 1-2 games lower than Boise's number every year.

Strength of schedule is an invention of idiots and an obsession of idiots. In Boise State's case it has been used to exclude them from major bowls or to match them against TCU - twice -- conveniently preventing another Oklahoma or Wisconsin situation for either team.

Here is what the Boise's knockers are waiting for -- next season when Kellen Moore is gone and Boise State inevitably declines. Their power rating will drop the 7-10 points that puts them into the second tier, the crowded tier of vulnerability. They will lose the extra 1-2 games and the nitwit schedule strength tulips will howl, asserting that Boise State was overstated all along. That type will be wonderfully clueless that they upsets they are witnessing at the time verifies how moronic they were years earlier, when claiming, "any team could run the table with that schedule," blah, blah, blah...

Boise State actually has a tough assignment this year. A Pac 12 team like Arizona State has plenty of athletes on both sides of the ball, a pro prospect quarterback, and was rated Top 25 in virtually every preseason list. The team averages 7.8 yards per pass attempt with many other good numbers in the key stats.

The same geniuses who rip Boise State are the type who annually downgrade the Pac. So they'll be double wrong merged in the Las Vegas Bowl but a tighter than expected game will allow them to feel happy. :rofl:

[trumad]

22. two words

Pancake schedule.

[joeybee12]

24. Hmmm...didn't Georgia make it to the SEC title game...and didn't Boise wallop them

good in Atlanta.

[lazarus]

25. One game does not a schedule make

Hanging all your hopes on one game a season is foolish, given that Boise has shown a tendency to lose to other, lesser opponents.

OK State did the same thing, hung all their hopes on walloping Sooner, hoping people would forget they lost to Iowa State. Thankfully, the voters remembered.

Had Bama lost to Vanderbilt (also finished 6-6), the Crimson Tide wouldn't be in the title game, either.

[joeybee12]

26. Nope, the SEC is over-rated...

Whne teams like Georgia play outside the conference, they lose...LSU would lose to Boise and a few other teams out there...certainly Alabama would...get rid of the BCS and expose the SEC for the fraud it is.

[lazarus]

28. that's hilarious

LSU and Bama would lose to Boise?

Overrated? Did you watch a 3 loss Bama dismantle co-Big Ten champs Sparty last year?

[trumad]

30. you mean the only ranked team they beat all season

You mean the Georgia team that is ranked 18th? The Geogia team who won a very bad SEC division and then got hammered by LSU.

Lets void that 1st game win with the loss to the 16th ranked TCU team.

Anyone who claims Boise had a tough schedule is fucking insane.

[lazarus]

32. no, you don't understand

he's saying an easy schedule is actually tougher than a tough schedule.

B-)

[LisaM]

27. When Boise State grows up and gets rid of the blue turf

perhaps they'll be taken more seriously.

[HuckleB]

35. -1

The turf is just fine. The schedule is crap.

[DinahMoeHum]

29. BCS = Big Crock of Shit

n/t

[Awsi Dooger]

37. Boise State is simply a monster program

As someone who uses stats as a guideline I marvel at their numbers every year. They never fail to destroy the norm and the expectation several times per year, and generally in the highest profile tests. This season was no different. Georgia had an excellent pass defense that held 7 opponents to 50% completions or less, gave up only 5.7 yards per attempt and 50% overall, with only one team managing higher than 57.6% completions.

That team was Boise State, with 28 of 34 for 82.4%. I was almost mesmerized by Boise State's pass routes and sophistication in that game, watching the schemes over and again on tape. It was definitely the best prepared and best coached team I saw for any one game all season, and not by a minor amount.

It was very mindful of 2009, when Boise State mangled TCU's running game in the Fiesta Bowl. From my Excel spreadsheet, these were TCU's rushing stats that season:

vs. Virginia -- 203 yards
vs. SW Texas St. -- 286 yards
vs. Clemson -- 162 yards
vs. SMU -- 229 yards
vs. Air Force -- 195 yards
vs. Colorado State -- 275 yards
vs. BYU -- 127 yards
vs. UNLV -- 390 yards
vs. San Diego State -- 312 yards
vs. Utah -- 342 yards
vs. Wyoming -- 339 yards
vs. New Mexico -- 202 yards

And in the Fiesta Bowl:

vs. Boise State -- 36 yards

I remember it well because the pointspread of Boise State +7.5 points was outrageous by any statistical measure, the wrong team favored. That was the same 2009 Boise State team that held Oregon to 31 yards rushing in the opener. Oregon's second lowest output of the year 175 yards. Overall they finished 4th nationally at 5.51 yards per rush and 231 yards per game.

In two subsequent years Boise State has been excluded from BCS bowls, despite an effort like that the last time they were invited, and the Oklahoma game years earlier. In that season, even in the wide open Big 12, Oklahoma's final eight regular season opponents scored: 9, 3, 10, 16, 24, 10, 21, 7. Boise State's tally was 43.

There's no use making sense of it because every anti-Boise rationale is invalid. But as long as the bar stool crowd embraces empty phrases like strength of schedule their ignorance will happily trot along.

[trumad]

38. A monster program in a cupcake division.

[Condem]

39. Patience, my friends. At the very least we're going to get a plus one.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7327447/athletic-directors-say-college-football-playoff-inevitable

[JonLP24]

40. 4-team playoff is all I'm asking for

It keeps the importance of the regular season.