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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:02 PM
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Some Drivers Whining Danica Patrick weight gives her advantage
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/racing/more/05/29/bc.car.irl.indy500noteb.ap/

One day after NASCAR's Robby Gordon said he would not race against the petite Patrick because he believes she has a weight advantage at a mere 100 pounds, IRL officials said they were not considering changing their rules to level the playing field.

"It's no issue at all, as it pertains to the Indianapolis 500 and oval-track racing," league spokesman John Griffin said.

The IRL does not consider the weight of the driver in its race specifications. While cars must weigh a minimum of 1,525 pounds before the fuel and driver are added, drivers are not weighed.

Patrick checks in almost 50 pounds less than pole winner Tony Kanaan. She qualified fourth for Sunday's race and consistently turned some of the fastest laps of the month. Less weight could give Patrick two advantages -- quicker speeds and less fuel consumption, which could be a key in a 500-mile race.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:04 PM
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1. What about a male driver, 200lbs, versus another male at 150 lbs.
hahaha...Pussies! They can't stand the truth. She's a natural, a phenomenon, the best rookie in years. Please God of Gods make her a Democrat. That would really send them reeling!
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:05 PM
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2. "Whining" is indeed the correct word.
My oh my, will racing be taken over by women and horse-jockey-stature men? Hey, if the sport is driven (heh, no pun intended) by faster cars and better times, that's the natural direction it's going to go in!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:06 PM
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3. Hands up who DIDN'T see this coming...
Edited on Tue May-31-05 01:13 PM by rocknation
:woohoo:

Less weight could give Patrick two advantages -- quicker speeds and less fuel consumption, which could be a key in a 500-mile race.
May I point out that Patrick nearly ran OUT of fuel at one point and was forced to drive accordingly?

:headbang:
rocknation
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:24 PM
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7. Then you also have to factor in
her stalling her engine during a pit stop that cost her something like 24 seconds. I think that and the fuel problem more than took away any advantage her lack of weight gave her.

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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:10 PM
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4. OMG! what a wuss.
Nothing wrong with being beat by a woman...however, whining about her weight and trying to disqualify her is pretty hounddog low.

When will these guys ever realize a penis is not an importance-meter.
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:16 PM
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5. Heehee, exactly.
And if this woman were overweight, the knuckledraggers would be commenting about that, too.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:25 PM
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8. its not like racing is a REAL sport, anyhow...
the car and pit crew do most of the crucial work.

IMHO.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:18 PM
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6. One word answer, Robby: Bulimia. . .
try it. you'll be under 120 in no time.
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SlackJawedYokel Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:56 PM
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9. Heard about this on the radio
Someone actually did the math and figured her "advantage" was 1/8th mile per hour.

The lightest male driver weighed in at somewhere around 125lbs.

My take?
Boys, she's just out-driving yer asses.
Cowboy up.
heh

Cletus
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:25 PM
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10. I suppose we should now expect class-action lawsuits
from 200-pound jockeys, and 98-pound linebackers, and five-foot basketball centers.

:crazy:
rocknation
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:30 PM
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11. Robby Gordon cries in public!
What cracks me up about this is that we're always hearing about how much work and strength it takes to drive a race car. Now I'm not saying that's not true, but, if it is, doesn't someone Robby Gordon's size have an unfair advantage over someone Danica Patrick's size? Hmm. Maybe they should make everything equal by making steering more difficult for those who can bench press more than others.

Sheesh. Gordon's a putz!
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:20 PM
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12. Robby Gordon is an idiot!
I personally think the cars should reach a minimum weight including the driver but that's irrelevant to the fact that Gordon is a fuckwit. He always has been.

Whine whine whine. I think Gordon is underweight in the talent department.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:50 PM
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14. "Robby Gordon is an idiot!"
That is word for word EXACTLY what Mike Wilbon said about him on the Pardon The Interruption sports talk show on ESPN!!! "Furthermore, he's a dummy, and he ought to stop stuffing his face and lose some weight!" Needless to say, I nearly fell out of my chair!

:rofl:
rocknation
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:01 PM
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13. and luckily for Robby gordon
he'll never have to make that come true, since the next big race Robby wins will be his first, he'll never be on an IRL track. And Patrick won't go NASCAR, where size does matter. So he can talk away.

congratulations, Robby Gordon! you got your name in the paper!
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Gardeaux08 Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:30 PM
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15. FYI
The journalist who wrote the article has written a clarifying one:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/irl/indy500/2005-05-31-gordon-patrick_x.htm


R. Gordon meant no disrespect of Patrick in weight remarks
By Jenna Fryer, AP Motorsports Writer
CHARLOTTE — Robby Gordon was not being critical of Danica Patrick when he said she had an unfair weight advantage in the Indianapolis 500. Rather, he said he was simply discussing a flaw in the Indy Racing League's rules.
"The only thing I was saying was that I have a problem with the rule, not any particular driver," Gordon said Tuesday. "I've been impressed with Danica from the first time she got in an IRL car earlier this year, and I certainly did not mean to disrespect her or any other driver."

Patrick wowed the racing world by becoming the highest-finishing female driver in Indianapolis history with a fourth-place finish on Sunday.

Gordon stated the day before the race that because Patrick weighs just 100 pounds, her car is lighter than everyone else in the field. Unlike other series, the IRL does not include a driver when setting its weight limit.

In NASCAR, where Gordon currently competes, the minimum weight requirement includes the driver.

But in the IRL, a car must weigh 1,525 pounds before the fuel and driver are added. A smaller driver would have at least a slight edge over heavier ones because of the rule.

"This rule has been around for years, and it's something that Paul Tracy and I have talked about for a long time," said Gordon, who weighs nearly 200 pounds.

Gordon's comments actually echoed those of several drivers in Indianapolis who complained that Patrick had an advantage.

"It makes a big difference," race winner Dan Wheldon said Tuesday. "If it didn't in qualifying, you wouldn't worry about the fuel. We try to make it basically run out during qualifying, and that's what a difference of six or seven pounds makes. I definitely think it's an advantage and I'm pretty sure in due time you'll have a rule change on that."

Sam Hornish Jr., who weighs roughly 60 pounds more than Patrick, said two days before the race that the size difference gave her an edge.

"That's got to be worth something," Hornish told the Toledo Blade. "Whether you calculate speed or fuel economy, that little difference is a factor."

Hornish's bosses at Penske Racing even figured out the mathematical advantage Patrick had.

"That's probably worth something like 0.8 of a mile an hour," team president Tim Cindric said.

Gordon, who didn't run in the Indy 500 this season for the first time in 10 years, said he was trying to make the same point.

Instead, his comments were interpreted by many as Gordon being critical of Patrick. He stressed Tuesday that was never his intent.

"Indy is one of the toughest races in the world to finish, let alone win, and the fact that she ran up front for most of the 200 laps proved her ability to drive," he said. "Given that she is so young, I would be amazed if she didn't win at least one Indy 500.

"Had she won, it would have done more for the IRL and the Indy 500 than could ever be imagined. As one who loves that race as much or more than any other, it would have been great to see because it would have been huge for the IRL."

IRL officials have said they are not considering changing the weight requirements.

Wheldon said the rules have forced the IRL regulars to be as light as possible.

"A lot of us have changed our training regimen for that," he said. "I'm not lifting as much weight as I used to, and I'm running like a son of a gun."

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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:09 AM
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16. One driver does not equal "Some" drivers
But I know better than to try to argue against the rampant hate of NASCAR around here.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:22 AM
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17. I've never thought of Robby Gordon as a NASCAR driver
I know it's just me but I've known him a lot longer as an off-road driver or road racer. I don't follow NASCAR any more although I have tickets to NHIS at Loudon every year. That's only because I had tickets to the Indy series that used to run there. I give my tickets away.

I don't hate NASCAR. I do, however, prefer series where the drivers turn both left and right and the cars don't have fenders. Just a personal preference.

All that being said, I just don't like Robby Gordon. Never have. :)
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:05 AM
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18. Ah, yes. Must ... bring ... up ... the ... haters ... routine.
Haters!

Haters!

Haters!



HATERS!



LOL!

:evilgrin:

(P.S. -- I'm sure that only Yankees fans actually hate Nascar.) ;)
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Lauri16 Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:29 AM
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19. Robby Gordon's a punk
He had the world by the nads driving for RCR, but couldn't stand being the number 2 guy behind Kevin. (Who I think is equally a punk, but that's for another time)

I don't know why he even threw his opinion out there since he said months ago that he had no intetion of running in the 500 this year.

I can't stand that guy.
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