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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 06:00 PM
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That was a decent 4th place performance from Tiger
Congrats Phil Michelson - that was a great win for both his wife and mother since they both have cancer.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 06:23 PM
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1. Yes, but how nice Phil won it.. with tears and kisses for a loving, ill wife...
Quite the contrast from Tiger's marital mess.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 06:25 PM
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2. I don't give a damn about his marital mess
I watch his golf.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 06:30 PM
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4. He's a great golfer... but there is more to life than golf...
Tiger is one seriously f'ked up dude.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 05:28 AM
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16. Thanks Captain Obvious
The problem with your sermon is that it is actually possible to not care about an athlete's personal life, positive or negative, and still like to watch them perform at their craft.
GAC
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 06:25 PM
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3. TOUCHE !!..n/t
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 06:44 PM
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5. do tiger lovers not give a damn about molestor priests cuz they only care of the religion then? nt
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 07:24 PM
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7. I don't really see what the one has to do with the other
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 07:23 PM
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6. Tiger did well considering the circumstances but
the interview he gave at the end of his round was, well for lack of a better word, graceless.

After acknowledging that he needed to earn his way back into the fan's good graces, he acted pissed that he didn't win.

That attitude, combined with the occasional "goddamnit", will make acceptance by fans as well as the sports press much more difficult.

Admittedly the remarks by Masters chairman Billy Payne did not help, but Tiger has got to know he's sort of on double secret probation right now.

I'm pulling for him, but just saying you're sorry isn't enough.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 07:31 PM
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8. Yeah, that was weird and uncomfortable to watch..
Tiger clearly has some serious issues... I hope he can work them out but its going to take more than just winning on the golf course.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 09:18 PM
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12. I agree as well but I think Tiger did do great yesterday and today expecially.
Loved that Eagle!

Yeah that interview at the end was weird but I liked how he said, "People are making waaay too much of me saying I would react less..." because they're jumping all over him for being disappointed that he hit some bad shots. On Drudge yesterday the headline was that "Tiger curses blah blah blah..." He didn't curse, he said "dammit" or something, it's not like he cussed out a little kid or something.

The guy made a major, major mistake and changed his legacy. He's definitely paid the price for it and part of him getting back to normal will be when the media cuts him a little slack.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 07:33 PM
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9. The wife cheating pervert got 4th place?
LOL.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 07:35 PM
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10. If you're not first, you're last
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 09:34 PM
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13. Yup. Second place is just the first place loser.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 07:47 PM
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11. Congrats to Michelson but before you build monuments, remember he is 1 Hooters waitress. . .
. . .from being an adulterer.

Congrats on winning, I am impressed by how he has been there for his wife and mother (remember John Edwards too, before we found out otherwise), but when it comes to the private lives of the rich, famous and powerful I say proceed with caution before holding them up as model citizens. . .and by the way athletes, actors, models, reality TV stars and musicians don't need to be model citizens.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 05:29 AM
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17. I Wouldn't Trust Phil Mickelson As Far As I Can Throw Him
There is something that screams "fraud" about him. I've always felt that way. I get a bad, phony vibe off of him.
GAC
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 10:38 AM
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22. I think the opposite
I followed him for a bit at the US Open at Medinah in 1990 before he turned pro and he was gracious and humble. He appears to be the same Phil, signs autographs after every round, good or bad and signs until everyone is happy, I thinks he's the real deal.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:09 AM
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23. Phil is completely geniune
I saw Phil and Amy leave the driving range at Las Vegas years ago and chat for 15 minutes with a fan who made a comment about his swing. Phil was laughing and patting the guy on the back, while Amy beamed.

The past three years I've followed Phil at Doral. He makes eye contact and knocks knuckles between every green and tee box. If someone says something, Phil turns and acknowledges it. Post round he signs so many autographs it's ridiculous.

Contrast to Tiger, the ultimate zombie. He's so phony out there he strains not to blink or turn his head when walking past the gallery. I've seen fans break down in laughter at how intentionally stiff he is, like the Buckingham guards.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 09:53 PM
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14. Besides Mickelson winning, nothing made me happier than Woods 3-putting from 8 feet
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:23 AM
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21. That was hilarious.
You know he wanted to let looose with a string of f-bombs.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 11:49 PM
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15. After all he's been through mentally, only three golfers out-performed him
Edited on Sun Apr-11-10 11:50 PM by rocktivity
which raises questions about the overall quality of the rest of the players. Or maybe that's unfair--Tiger doesn't MEAN to make the tour's better golfers look merely good and the good golfers look merely nonexistent.

At any rate, if I were a PGA sponsor or advertiser, I'd be requesting a discount.


rocktivity
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 05:47 AM
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18. I don't know
What if Tiger really played that well? I mean he shot in the 60s in the first round for his career at Augusta, tied a Masters record with 4 birdies, shot 68-70-70-69, and shot -11 overall. I think that is good enough to win many other years. Maybe not. I think that's a testament to how talented he is rather than an indictment of the field.

I read that Tiger gave ESPN it's largest golf audience ever and I believe the CBS airtime has a run for possibly hosting the largest US audience ever. Online viewership was up also which is what advertisers care about.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 08:36 AM
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19. ESPN blew it for not showing Tiger live on Thursday and Friday.
Nor did Masters.com video show him except rarely but who the hell else do they think everyone was tuning in to see? Sure I'm sure there were 50 people or so watching for Fred Couples or whoever but we all wanted to see Tiger live for his return to golf and they REALLY missed out by not showing it live. I bet their ratings would have been double what they ended up being.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 08:40 AM
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20. Yeah---weird
the last 4 holes they would show him in tape delay.

The dude was in contention until 17 and with Phil's well documented case of the yips... anything could have happened.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 02:21 PM
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24. That's not ESPN's fault -- the Masters limits TV coverage
Tiger had a fairly late tee time on Thursday, so ESPN had him for about ten holes. That also meant he'd have an early tee time on Friday, so he was long done by the time ESPN was allowed to broadcast. The Masters did let ESPN break into their regular programming to show him tee off on the first hole on Thursday, though. I'm sure if it were up to ESPN, Tiger would have been the last to tee off on both days so that they could cover the bulk of his round, but The Masters has always had a ton of control about TV broadcasts. Even Saturday's broadcast was scheduled to start after the leaders had already teed off.

They also have other restrictions on the broadcast, some of which are pretty good for the viewer--they limit commercials to four minutes per hour and they don't allow promotion of other network shows, either during commercial segments or by on-air talent. So Jim Nantz can't pretend to be interested in that TV show about ballroom dancing crime scene investigators, or whatever. IIRC, they let ESPN keep the scroll at the bottom of the screen but didn't allow the superimposed ESPN logo in the picture itself.

Of course, Masters.com could have still shown Tiger Woods in their feature group--that would have seemed an obvious choice, and I don't know why they didn't.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 02:28 PM
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25. You're an expert on golf?
Mickelson is a great player. Deal with it.
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