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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:11 PM
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7 Coaches Who Should Replace Charlie Weis at Notre Dame
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/therundown/2009/11/7_coaches_who_should_next_season.php?page=2

As we near the end of another college football season, one of America's favorite subjects rises again: What happens to Notre Dame?

Why is this non-story a story? Yu don't have to look far -- whether in St. Louis or in any other part of the country -- Notre Dame fans, however obnoxious or uppity, are everywhere.

Since Lou Holtz left the Irish after the '96 season, the national relevance of the program has diminished almost as much as Holtz's relevance as an ESPN analyst. Notre Dame has no trouble being relevant to fans or the media because it's, well, Notre Dame. But the program isn't the problem, it's the coach. When Charlie Weis was brought in five years ago, it was because he was an alumni and he had credentials as the offensive coordinator for the Super Bowl-winning dynasty New England Patriots. It seemed like a logical choice, right?

Weis' credibility as a coach isn't in question; it's whether he's right for Notre Dame. In five seasons, he has amassed the same record and winning percentage as the two guys before him: 35 wins, 25 losses, just like Bob Davies; and a winning percentage of .583 just like Davies and Tyrone Willingham.

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Interesting that they have Urban Liar first.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:40 PM
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1. Here's my suggestion...
Bobby Bowden...or Lloyd Carr..I hear he's available..:rofl:
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:50 PM
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2. Why, I oughta....
:mad:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:31 PM
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9. Lloyd Carr might actually work
ND doesn't play Ohio State, you see. :P
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:08 PM
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3. Bobby Petrino is available
He's been in the same job for almost two years. He should be leaving soon. Although he usually moves up. Arkansas to Notre Dame sure as hell isn't a promotion relative to sports programs and facilities in the 21st century.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:11 PM
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4. No, it's a jump from the 17th century to the 21st century...
:evilgrin:
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 02:04 PM
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13. He wouldn't be the first guy to coach both Arkansas and ND...
My brother has a Lou Holtz Razorback doll all decked out in his 70's attire (checkered pants and Red Hogs windbreaker).
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 03:48 PM
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14. Lou spent a year at Minnesota
between his Arkansas and Notre Dame Gigs. Broyles hired Holtz to replace himself and that pissed off UA assistant Jimmy Johnson who left for Oklahoma State.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:25 PM
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16. I was reading about his short MN stint earlier.
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 04:26 PM by hughee99
He left before their bowl game that year because he had a "Notre Dame clause" in his contract that let him out to go to ND.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:53 PM
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5. Notre Dame has driven themselves into irrelevance.
Who really cares. There is no incentive to win a conference or actually anything. They have a fat contract to SUCK on NBC.

I suppose they could join the MAC and actually be competitive!!

:D

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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 08:52 AM
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6. I'm still of the opinion that...
Notre Dame should be kicked out of the Big East for all other sports if they refuse to join for football.
Of course, TPTB at the Big East would never do that, because of the "prestige" of being able to claim ND as a conference member.
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Capt. America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:42 AM
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7. They can forget "pope Urban", Stoops, and Gruden. I would think the "sexy" choice now is
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 10:42 AM by Capt. America
Kelly of Cinci or Harbough. I'm not familiar with the VT or TCU fellas.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:54 AM
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8. You know, Urban Meyer was named after the pope who started the Crusades...
...incredible what lack of history his parents must have. Then again, they might be very much aware of it, which makes them pr*cks.
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 02:03 PM
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22. His mother is from Poland.....
and perhaps it's a Polish name. Reading his bio.... I didn't get the impression he's very Catholic or very religious, at all.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 02:03 PM
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23. I don't think Urban is a popular Polish name...
...lots of Polish relatives and no one had that.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:42 PM
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10. Harbaugh will end up in Michigan.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:45 PM
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11. Harbaugh has a good thing going with Andrew Luck
Maybe in 3 years but not now. No way he'll bail on a freshman QB that happens to be the best QB in the Pac 10. Plus Stanford built him an expensive bathroom just for him!
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RT Atlanta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 01:53 PM
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12. Nick "Sabear" Saban
He's a money grabbin' attention ho and should enjoy the fact the pope's school has its own dedicated network (NBC) to broadcast its football games.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:22 PM
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15. At this point, an attention ho might just be what America's Most Beloved
College Football Team needs.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:31 PM
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17. One and all can feel
all the love for Notre Dame on this thread. Notre Dame is an attention Pimp institution (which has embarrassed itself for years) so regardless of who gets the job they will be an attention whore.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:40 PM
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18. No, don't be shy...say what you REALLY feel Boss! n/t
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 06:52 PM
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19. USA Today had a similar story
They mentioned Grudden, Stoops and Urban Meyer among a few others. Let me see if I can find a link.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 08:37 PM
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20. As much as ND is the prime prime job Meyer isn't going anywhere
Florida is THE prime job right now because of him.

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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 04:20 PM
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21. Who would want that job?
-snip-

Domers will flood the blogosphere with breathless tales of Urban Meyer's lifelong love for Notre Dame and Bob Stoops' disillusionment at Oklahoma. Jon Gruden's dad was an Irish assistant on Dan Devine's staff, remember. Ara Parseghian is 86, unfortunately, but Lou Holtz is only 72. Catholic, too. So is Steve Mariucci.

All well and good. And not happening. Meyer chose Florida over Notre Dame in 2004 for a reason: It's a better job. Many of them are. Notre Dame hasn't won a national championship since 1988 or been in contention for one since 1993. It needs an upgrade to reach the middle-class prosperity of Iowa, Missouri or Cal -- decent every year, really good occasionally -- before it can aspire to rejoin the Florida-Texas-Alabama-Ohio State ruling elite.

Still a magic name, a special place? To some, but not everybody. Pat Fitzgerald was probably speaking for a lot of college coaches when he said don't even ask. He's at Northwestern, his alma mater, which is 8-4 this year.

-snip-

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/dan_mcgrath/11/23/notre.dame/index.html





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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 02:04 PM
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24. Anyone who wants to make $3 million per year....
guaranteed for 5 years. I'm guessing that's lots of coaches who aren't currently making that much money.
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Capt. America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 09:08 PM
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25. Brian Kelly -everyone else is a pipedream.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 07:02 AM
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26. Brian Kelly would be the practical choice.
Forget about Gruden and Meyer. Meyer has a chance to rack up more national championships at Florida so I doubt he's seriously thinking about changing jobs. Choosing Gruden would be making the same mistake they made when they chose Weis. Pro coaches don't always win when they move to the college level.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 04:37 PM
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27. I predict that It will be Lou Holtz.
No one else wants it.
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