Should Notre Dame Fire Charlie Weis?

[joeybee12]

[charlie and algernon]

1. phuck yes

and it has the added bonus of being in the middle, so it's a great big middle finger to Weiss.

[joeybee12]

2. As long as no one else votes, that finger will look huge the whle time! n/t

[TZ]

3. Nope.

As a ND hater, I enjoy watching them stuggle...:P

[joeybee12]

6. Your vote doesn't count! Read the rules!

It must be YES!!!! :grr:

[KamaAina]

20. +23-21

:P

[joeybee12]

21. You're evil!

Evil!!!! :mad:

[TZ]

23. ND...The Yankees of College Football!!

Except unlike the Yanks, they haven't won any championships of late...:hide:

[hughee99]

4. Now? The should have fired him 2 years ago. n/t

[JonLP24]

5. If they do fire him

They'll probably bring in someone else to lose a few games.

[joeybee12]

7. They should wait until the end of the season...get that boost from a

new coach at the beginning of next season...who cares what they do with this season now, it's lost.

[JonLP24]

10. That's what I mean

I don't imagine ND fire him during this season but I have a feeling whoever they bring in who will have similar success that Weiss has had.

[Upton]

8. ND keeps going through coaches

and things never get any better. Oh, the odd really good year pops up now and then but the truth is, ND is no longer an elite program, they no longer get the best athletes. What do you want Charlie Weis to do?

[joeybee12]

9. During Weis' tenure, ND was consistently in the top 10 in recruting...

...he just doesn't have it.

Twice in 3 years to Navy, at HOME???????

[Upton]

12. Lets see

Davie, Willingham, now Weis....it can't be that all 3 are bad coaches, something else is going on.

[JonLP24]

13. It wasn't Weiss on the field unable to sack Forcier or prevent the TD pass

It wasn't Weiss that threw a bad pass that could have beat USC. It wasn't Weiss that was blocking instead of catching wear Navy got that interception. Those are the 3 losses there.

Edit/Agreeing with you here.

[trumad]

15. Nope---but it was Weiss who recruited them and coached them...

It starts at the top...

[JonLP24]

16. True

Even though I pretty much called out Clausen and Golden Tate on those two plays they are actually having a good season. The players.

[joeybee12]

17. If a team isn't focused, and loses when they should win, it's the coach's

fault, pure and simple.

[trumad]

19. Yep

[RT Atlanta]

11. Keep him!

Sign him to another contract extension. The more damage Mr. Weis can do to that "storied" program (who doesn't have the balls to join a conference and gets beat regularly by the service academies) the better.

[trotsky]

14. I'll be quite honest with you.

It's going to be nearly impossible for ND to be competitive in today's college football, for a very good reason. They actually care about their football players getting an education. I am *far* from being a Notre Dame fan, but I gotta give them props on this. They have one of the highest graduation rates in Div I athletics. Other schools are merely football factories (Ohio State, Floriduh, LSU, you name it). They offer kids a scholarship, they barely attend classes (or not at all), in 2-3 years move on to be drafted into the NFL and never get their degree. That is the formula to win in the BCS.

[joeybee12]

18. That's true...but they could at least be mediocore...they're still

getting the talent, but Weis just can't get the kids fired up at all.

[mduffy31]

22. Exactly how many of the guys on the vaunted SEC football factories

Have to take Calculus as a freshman....hell have to take it at all.

[Toasterlad]

24. As a Penn State Fan, I'd Love For Charlie Weiss to Remain With Notre Dame Forever.

Forever, and ever, and ever.

[madinmaryland]

25. Abso-fucking-lutely! The Fighting Amish are awaiting the return of...

LOU HOLTZ!!1!!

:D

[Kingofalldems]

26. Knute says YES!

So does Ara Parseghian and Joe Kuharich and Dan Devine and......

[Yavin4]

27. No, Keep Him

Then again, I'm a USC Trojan fan.

[Condem]

28. Really, Yavin4.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=215&topic_id=105510&mesg_id=105510 What the fuck is this all about, then?

[Yavin4]

29. I'm a Trojans Fan Because I Went to the School

But college football still blows man. Most of the games are awful. No playoffs. And, whichever team has the fastest guys always win.

Even the USC/ND games are awful to watch.

[PVnRT]

30. Absolutely not. I love how Notre Dame is playing now.

Losing to Michigan and Navy in the same year? I'd say he's doing a GREAT job, and should stay there for a long time.