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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 02:29 AM Original message |
Huff Post: Dawkins - "Why There Almost Certainly Is No God" |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 02:31 AM Response to Original message |
1. 'a moral and intellectual emergency' |
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Norbu (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 02:48 AM Response to Original message |
2. dawkins is a child |
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w13rd0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 02:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Care to elaborate... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 03:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. No, Dawkins is an intellectual adult. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 03:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I have to take some exception here. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
71. Your exception is noted....in my, admittedly limited, interaction |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Agreed, and your last line nails the problem. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 04:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. And onto ignore you go. I regarded you as on of the reasonable |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:10 AM Response to Reply #19 |
34. Ignore? |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 09:36 AM Response to Reply #34 |
55. Not true at all - and that's why threads like this belong in R/T |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 10:19 AM Response to Reply #55 |
64. You know, I agree... |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:42 PM Response to Reply #55 |
98. You don't think that statement |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 12:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
72. Ignoring me? |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 06:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
112. Oh can I be put on ignore too? Please please pretty please, with saccharine on it? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 03:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. I'm going to guess here that your point is... |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 04:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Talk about sleeper cells. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 05:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. agreed |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
99. "gallingly simplistic thinker"? |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #99 |
113. Don't bother, Gobby. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 07:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
26. but even a child can reason. And does here. Unlike the religious |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. As an agnostic |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
78. I agree with you - I really love our liberal believer brothers and sisters.... |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
45. but you agree that "some" religious folk are delusional |
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DrunkenMaster (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
42. hilarious! |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 09:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
58. Insulting Dawkins is not a reasonable response. |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 02:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. Religion is not God |
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Keepontruking (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 03:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. God |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 03:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. No he does not. |
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wake.up.america (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 03:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. God is love. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 03:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Gods are trees, and sunshine and everything...and thus unnecessary. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 04:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I wrote an essay on the subject |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
79. "So, God is what we believe it is." |
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wake.up.america (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 04:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. No offense. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 07:22 AM Response to Reply #12 |
27. One worships God because one knows there is a God - the atheist does not |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:20 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Ahhh. The "God has no interactions with the universe" so he must exist... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
84. It's not even a coherent argument. |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 09:06 AM Response to Reply #27 |
52. During most of the history of Christianity |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
77. What do you see that he does not? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
80. Except that you don't know - you think you know. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
101. Do you see what your language choice says about yourself? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
46. Pantheism= The Philosophy that answers more then either Atheism or Theism |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 12:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
82. You'll forgive me if I ignore people who believe in "Intelligent Design". |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 06:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
21. I'll take 'god is light' for $1000 Alex |
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morgan2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 07:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
29. no God is resentment |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
100. Well that sure begs the question. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 03:40 AM Response to Original message |
9. As an atheist who thus lacks any religion, let me just say this: |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
33. BRAVO or brava, as the case may be. |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
44. The best way to make millions is to start a religion - L. Ron Hubbard |
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garthranzz (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
47. Pardon, but the greatest scientists were deeply religious and |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 09:11 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Many of the Founding Fathers were, in fact, Deists; that's true |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 09:38 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. "Secularism led to Soviet Russa" - bollocks |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 09:43 AM Response to Reply #47 |
59. Deeply religious? EINSTEIN? Try again. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 12:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
75. Thomas Paine was one of the most progressive of the FF, and an atheist. |
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garthranzz (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:58 PM Response to Reply #75 |
103. First, on Einstein... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 02:40 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Gah...the irony is that Dawkins talks about this very thing in his book. |
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garthranzz (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #105 |
116. Hmm, ironic indeed |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 07:44 PM Response to Reply #105 |
119. Yeah they do, and it's immoral to posthumously baptize someone. |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Better for society my arse |
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garthranzz (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #106 |
120. Arrogance looks best in the mirror |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 07:33 PM Response to Reply #103 |
115. "no law respecting an establishment of religion" is secularism |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
85. Bullshit. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
117. HA! |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 10:46 AM Response to Reply #9 |
70. Zhade... |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 04:21 AM Response to Original message |
13. Revealed religion is the greatest hoax ever played on humanity... |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 04:31 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. In other words... |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 04:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Yep... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
88. Indeed. I can dig spirituality, whatever. |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 06:08 AM Response to Original message |
22. Like a giant mechanism, that universe |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
23. Would war exist without religion? |
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verdalaven (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 07:56 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Yes, war would exist without religion |
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alterfurz (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 07:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. related quote |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:23 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. You have to admit, though... |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
73. Yes. People would still want stuff |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
89. Would there be less-than-lethal wars, though? |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
95. Probably. Though the warmongers would be quick to invent it, |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
118. Perhaps. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
24. Indeed |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:34 AM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Rationality That Refuses To Account For The Role Of Intuition |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 09:01 AM Response to Reply #43 |
50. I love it |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 09:05 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I presume you meant 'real science' and since cutting edge physics |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 09:40 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. "cutting edge"? "moving in the direction"? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #57 |
68. cs believes in creationism. |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #51 |
69. Idealism is a dicsussion for another topic |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
86. You're talking to a True Believer in - get this - INTELLIGENT DESIGN. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Oh leave her alone Zhade |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:23 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Well, I'm only stating what she believes. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #90 |
111. No. No, he shouldn't. Absolutely not. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
102. Here's what never ceases to amaze me |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
25. "Almost Certainly"? He seems to be backtracking |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 07:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. :-) has he lost his religion? Is he in danger of losing his religion - or is |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
91. I was wrong - I will reply to this post, to actually thank you. |
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morgan2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 07:48 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. No thats how rational people talk |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:28 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. The reason one can't speak with absolute certainty... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #25 |
87. Hey! I take offense to that! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
35. If there is a God, would it concern itself with what we believe? |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:29 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. God's complete data file on us: "Mostly Harmless". (NT) |
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #35 |
63. Agreed |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
92. Humans can be QUITE arrogant and egocentric, can't we? |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
38. A dozen or more people like Dawkins and we may actually... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
94. I think the way to go is shoring up secularism. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
48. I'll say this: |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 09:44 AM Response to Reply #48 |
60. Why can't the Big Bang be your 'something' without a cause? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 10:25 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Very true... |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
49. Dear Mr. Dawkins... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:35 PM Response to Reply #49 |
96. Okay, help me out with that one, because it stumped me. |
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Catfight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
54. Why doesn't anyone ask, "how was religion born?" That's more |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
83. Dawkins takes a look at why or how religion was started |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
61. Seems a bad argument |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
62. Don't make Dawkins' mistake... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 10:29 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Doesn't that turn religion and theology into a parlour game? |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 10:35 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. It shows a deep need |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 01:39 PM Response to Reply #67 |
97. Wow, your less-than-human self understands humans very well! |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. I take offense to that |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
74. Either you're with us or against it |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 12:58 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. Have you even read any of his books? |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #81 |
109. Granted, what I've read of Dawkins is what's been in the media |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
107. Out of sheer, morbid curiousity... |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. But remarkably like the tongue lashing he received from the reich wingers. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
110. whine snivel sniff waaaaaaaaah haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa! |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-24-06 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
121. Locking. |
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