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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 11:32 AM Original message |
There is No God (And You Know It) - Sam Harris |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. My response to Harris is on a bumper sticker on my car: |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 05:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. I like that. |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
53. Which I agree with so the question naturally follows why do |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
2. Finally, someone who speaks truth. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
3. If One Can't Deny the Obvious, Then Lots of People Lose Their |
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Vexatious Ape (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
4. I recommend his book, The End of Faith |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
5. This article was written a year ago. |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Yes, you are right it is an older article of Sam's. But it is |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
6. Just because God does not intervene and to save little girls |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. It is, but the point is that simply because one believes in something |
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bmbmd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. And the converse is also true. |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 12:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. True, but the burden of proof is on those who assert something |
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bmbmd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. You are exactly right. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
49. Why do you say we need faith? |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 01:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Those that do not believe something carry a burden of proof as well. |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Bullshit! n/t |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I presume that is sarcasm since you did make this post ---- |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Man of straw. |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 09:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. No need to get hostile Plato. Chill out. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 10:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Perhaps you misread me. |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
54. Sorry. I thought you were bent about something. But yes, |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. For the most part, I agree. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
60. That's absolutely false. |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. Who expects you to? |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
61. There is no burden of proof for personal belief, only if you are |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 05:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. And the converse is true as well. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
56. I don't think any atheist has ever asserted |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Just to get a bit odd.. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. My lucky night. |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 08:17 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Did you ever eat asparagus |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. So then, the idea of God... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
11. I personally think that, in their heart of hearts, everyone knows it. |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I just wonder what everyone is so afraid of. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. "I just wonder what everyone is so afraid of." |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
57. I don't say anything because it would threaten my right to believe |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 09:53 AM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Which is exactly what I said, with one little exception. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
14. Like I think it's morally repugnant |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I generally find the God saved me line offensive also. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Yeah...God, the great (crooked) boxing promoter in the sky... |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 01:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. He didn't save 'em, they just weren't done cooking yet. |
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tomcalab (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
21. Sorry, no I don't |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. What's a "superior creature?" |
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tomcalab (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 04:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Well Said! |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 05:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Answer.....Law enforcement |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
24. Previous discussion on it here |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. LOL, really, not much changes does it? |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 05:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Whew, I missed that one. |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
29. Harris is a passionate man |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 09:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Obvious is one of those frequently misused words... |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:29 AM Response to Reply #35 |
47. Perhaps not "obvious" to all |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:04 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. That's kind of my point. |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:57 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Yep |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 01:04 AM Response to Reply #50 |
62. So then... |
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tomcalab (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
34. Way Off Course |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 09:09 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I accept your apology. |
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tomcalab (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 10:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. I tried |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 10:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Well, I was just being snarky here but... |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 09:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. I have heard it said that most atheist are such not because they |
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tomcalab (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 10:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. I Agree |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:33 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. You know I have starting taking a hebrew class and going |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 10:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. To paraphrase Mark Twain... |
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tomcalab (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. That's fair |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:19 AM Response to Reply #43 |
51. I would imagine |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:15 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. ROTFLMAO!!! Great!!! n/t |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 11:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. The bible is a book. It was written by some people. |
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