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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 12:10 PM
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Episcopal Church head says split would cause chaos
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2006-09-28T172705Z_01_N28263966_RTRUKOC_0_US-RELIGION-EPISCOPALS.xml

A suggestion by African, Asian and Latin American Anglican bishops that the Episcopal Church be turned into two churches because of disputes over gay issues would lead to chaos, the head of the U.S. church said on Thursday.

Frank Griswold, presiding bishop of the 2.4-million-member Episcopal Church, said a communique issued on September 22 from Kigali, Rwanda, by conservative bishops of a group known as the Global South "raises profound questions about the nature of the church, its ordering and its oversight."

Bishops at the meeting in the Rwandan capital suggested that it was time for Episcopalians upset with the 2003 consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire as the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican Church history should form their own church.

But Griswold, in a formal response posted on Thursday by the Episcopal News Service, said he believes "such a division would open the way to multiple divisions across other provinces of the Communion, and any sense of a coherent mission would sink into chaos."


nice try Frank but I think we'd muddle on very well without the cons weighing us down
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 12:52 PM
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1. I agree with you, dwickham.
Episcopalians would be MUCH better off without the rightwing religious zealots. Let them go off on their own.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 01:55 PM
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2. You can't ride coat-tails and dig in your heals at the same time.
Who knows, maybe the new Pope would welcome these anti-gay Episcopalians back?

:evilgrin:
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:05 PM
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3. actually the Catholic Church has said no in some cases
some parishes have asked to be accepted in the Catholic Church and have been turned down

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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:30 PM
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4. They probably weren't willing to jump through the right hoops.
Some Orthodox churches did, for example the Ruthenian Byzantine Catholic Church, "a Church in full communion with the Holy Father the Pope of Rome."

It would not surprise me to see this happen within my lifetime, as compared to other changes in the Roman Catholic Church which take hundreds, if not thousands of years to accomplish.

(I mention this from the other end of a ten foot pole. That's as close as I want to get.)


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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:41 PM
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5. Have you by any chance seen this blog?
A friend pointed it out to me, and I love it. He's been talking about the whole mess, very articulately, I think.

Father Jake Stops the World
http://frjakestopstheworld.blogspot.com/
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:23 PM
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6. That's a very interesting blog. Thanks!
:)
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:15 PM
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7. I find myself checking in daily now
He seems one cool guy!
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:32 PM
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8. Good blog.
thanks for the tip.

we have tickets to the intallation of Jefferts-Shiori as Bishop on Nov. 4 at Washington National Cathedral.

Akinola is out for a showdown. This will not test ECUSA, but it will test Rowan Williams. I would like to see ECUSA put up the good fight, and point out Akinola's attempt at grabbing power, which is what this is really all about

I am tired of ECUSA kissing ass.







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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:42 AM
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9. Our churches are smaller
but at least the riff raff is gone!
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