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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 07:17 PM
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Poll question: Intelligent Design is...
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 07:21 PM
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1. None of the above:
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 07:25 PM by Kutjara
It's religion wearing ill-fitting scientific clothes. It's a pack of lies and dogma, dressed up as a theory. It is not a religion of peace, but of unthinking dogma. It is, in the words of Wolfgang Pauli, so meaningless it's not even wrong.
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uriel1972 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 07:23 PM
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2. What the above poster said so well:)
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 07:24 PM
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3. Intelligent Design has a major problem
The Outback has just found what could be the missing link. A child with ape like appearence and human brain hmmmmmm
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 04:16 AM
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8. You call that a major problem for ID?
I would have thought the fact that it can never become a theory was a much bigger problem.

A MUCH bigger problem.
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cyborg_jim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 12:26 PM
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13. Erm, what?
Firstly humans are apes - a child with an ape-like appearance is therefore a redundant statement.

Secondly the whole 'missing link' thing is just a big fallacy - the basic tactic of a evolutionary theory detractor when presented with two pieces of evidence towards a evolutionary path is to demand a third piece to sit in the middle. When that third piece arrives they will then demand two more pieces to fit into the two new gaps that have appeared, and so forth.

Lastly there simply cannot be living 'missing links' by definition. A missing link MUST be an ancestor, so unless you're proposing this kid is pretty old he cannot be an ancestor of homo sapiens.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:34 PM
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4. Intelligent design is the sheep's costume the theocratic wolf wears
to school curriculum meetings.

Defining what it is is less the point than stating what it is not. And what it is not is Science.

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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:50 PM
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5. I had to vote other:
There was no option for "Fucking stupid and without merit, and in contradiction to every single piece of evidence we have found"
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 01:33 AM
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6. Intelligent design is a good bicycle.
The other kind? Watch a few c-sections, then decide. If babies are supposed to come out there, you'd think the opening would always be large enough, wouldn't you?

But yeah, I like the clothing explanation: "Intelligent Design" is religion dressed up in a thrift store lab coat, it's "I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV."

If you find something you can't explain in evolutionary biology, it means you can't explain it, it doesn't mean there is a supernatural explanation, it means you've found some work to do.



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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 02:47 AM
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7. Lol...there is a lot of stuff that fits in really nicely
in evolutionary biology....evolution fits in nicely with continental drift, genetics, paleontology, etc. And when we find some anomoly, the creationist ignore all the data we do have and point at the anomoly and say, "SEE EVOLUTION IS NOT REAL".

And just feel like saying.."Dude, give us another couple of years. We'll figure it out"
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 11:30 AM
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9. So a lot of IDers just say evolution is part of the design.
It's a catch all.

--IMM
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:07 PM
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10. In doing so they deprive themselves of any consequence.
Okay, God made the Big Bang. Does that change any of the science? No. So what's the point again of "Intelligent Design?"

Otherwise they are the sort of creationist who believes in God the Tinkerer:

"Once upon a time a bunch of apes were dancing around a big black rectangular obelisk..."

That's a very shallow sort of faith.



Yes, it's true! God told me to smack our neighbors with that bone!
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:26 PM
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11. The point of Intelligent Design...
It's to dilute the primacy of science. You know, it's to allow the cold, wet, nose of the proverbial camel into the tent perched on the slippery slope.:)

--IMM
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:45 PM
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12. As opposed, say, to
unintelligent design?
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:33 PM
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14. The Revelation of the Cosmic Mother to the Young God
or, Jehovah as a Boy (pace Björk):

"I don't care that there's no such thing as Intelligent Design -- clean up your universe right this instant!"

--p!
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