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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 10:37 AM Original message |
A question for the "real" liberal Christians. |
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Don Claybrook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. what makes you say that? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 10:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Just scan the hottest threads in the forum. |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. Oh but Mr. T |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
3. I usually do if I see the threads |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-31-06 05:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
97. And the "who cares what the invisible cloud says" |
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catabryna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-24-06 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
5. Could you refer me to a couple of those threads... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
6. Well, trotsky, I've been on DU since two months after it was founded, |
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funflower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 02:52 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Those are all great things. However, I think trostsky's point is that if |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 03:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I am not intending to be callous or to suggest you aren't doing enough... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 08:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. I just wonder why |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Well, I honestly haven't seen that many fundies here on DU |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. they are here lydia, trust me. |
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funflower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 09:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Actually, I HAVE seen some great efforts from the liberal Christian |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 03:03 AM Response to Original message |
8. There has been an influx lately, hasn't there? |
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renter (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 06:32 AM Response to Original message |
10. trotsky, |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 06:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. "the errors of man ignoring God in forming secular governments" ? |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #11 |
37. wow |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 12:18 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. I'm beginning to wonder that myself. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 06:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. You've got Japan backwards |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 08:23 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. *Our* government was founded as secular. |
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MikeH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 07:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. The problem with the Bible as "Absolute Truth" |
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MikeH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 10:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
66. Adding to that |
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funflower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 09:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. Welcome to DU, renter. |
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renter (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
62. Thank you funflower |
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funflower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 09:03 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Good luck! |
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MikeH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 10:34 AM Response to Reply #62 |
91. Sounds like what needs to be done |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 01:00 AM Response to Reply #33 |
109. He might even learn the truth that this is a secular country. |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
13. revolutionary |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 08:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Oh, I see. |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 05:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Have you met J.Z Knight? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Knight only has to do one thing to prove Ramtha is genuine. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Can't have a religion without a bit o' gay-bashin', now can ya? |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 06:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. money |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 07:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. It bothers me when people steal money, yes. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 07:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Enlightened Beings? |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Its an odd quote that |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 09:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. It is so, sooo hard to reply to this last post of yours... |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 12:09 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. "like overhearing a slightly retarded man hitting on a pretty girl" |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 12:17 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I am SO glad I stopped doing drugs when I did. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 01:21 AM Response to Reply #39 |
116. Hey, she and I share the same pro-marijuana experiences... |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 02:05 AM Response to Reply #116 |
121. Actually, I was thinking of the |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 07:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Indeed |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 01:05 AM Response to Reply #42 |
111. "An empowerment from an enlightened master is transmitted telepathically" |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 01:04 AM Response to Reply #34 |
110. Man, you NAILED it. |
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opiate69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 01:55 AM Response to Reply #25 |
120. As someone who has actually seen Knight's compound, |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 05:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. seriously though, and with all due respect , sweetheart |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 06:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. fair enough |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. i can't help buit be a skeptic about this sort of thing.. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 01:06 AM Response to Reply #24 |
112. Anyone who believes that kind of nonsense gets what they deserve. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Why deference? |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 08:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. spiritual enlightenment is not intellectual |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Listen, |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 08:16 AM Response to Reply #35 |
44. forgetting all teachings |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Hey sweetheart, Gangaji said what I wrote! |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. its a word game to you |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. How come we have to BUY her "profound teachings"? |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 06:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Because of her teacher's wish |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. *snort* |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 07:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Silly rabbit! |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Obviously you've never promoted an event |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 08:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Missing the boat worrying about money and fraud so much. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 08:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Completely true. |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-27-06 11:17 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. That is just ignorant |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 08:01 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Your smoke screen has lost what little effect it had. |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 08:53 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Your smoke screen is based on no evidence. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Jump to conclusions without evidence? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 04:27 AM Response to Reply #70 |
88. When I quoted Gangaji, |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 01:12 AM Response to Reply #70 |
113. Your entire expressed belief system is based on no evidence. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. No soup for you! |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Sweetheart is talking right over your head |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Ah, yes, crystal therapy and Ramtha are "way over my head" |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 03:46 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. "any touch of skeptical "bad vibes" makes all impressive results vaporize" |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 01:19 AM Response to Reply #74 |
115. Mainly, it's that they probably know it's not real, and deny that fact. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 10:35 AM Response to Reply #73 |
77. "of the atheist persuasion" |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 01:17 AM Response to Reply #73 |
114. One doesn't need to have a background in bullshit to smell bullshit. |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 10:05 AM Response to Reply #67 |
76. Eastern Religion |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 12:47 AM Response to Reply #76 |
85. You speak the truth. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-31-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #85 |
96. That actually steps on the OP. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 03:40 AM Response to Reply #96 |
99. No, it doesn't. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:50 AM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Well, that isn't making much sense at all. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:25 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. You're thoroughly misunderstanding. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:13 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Then I still am. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:40 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. I am agreeing with the OP. :) |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 01:22 AM Response to Reply #99 |
117. Dude, "revealed religion" is all based on appeal to authority. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Absolutely not. |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. ha ha :-) |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 07:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. D'oh! Busted! n/t |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-25-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Fade away and radiate |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 08:43 AM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Predatory BS |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 01:25 AM Response to Reply #45 |
118. Except that you only THINK you know. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
41. I think you've really put your finger on it. Thanks. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 08:15 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Yeah, that's what bothers me the most. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
46. I am not seeing these threads (of course, sometimes I'm busy). |
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ex nec 8404 (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
49. trotsky, of a thousand posts. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I'd like to chime in with an answer: No. |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. ROFL! |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 04:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Before I can give an honest answer: Which god would that be? |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-26-06 05:41 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Yes, which God? |
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carl_pwccaman (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:43 AM Response to Reply #53 |
68. Good topic. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
78. I'm glad you asked this question |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 04:19 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Uh, Meals on Wheels is not a christian organization. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Meals on Wheels is not a Christian organization. Well, just "duh"! |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 07:40 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Why should we recognize christians for volunteering with Meals on wheels? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Sheesh... |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. I can see why you don't like to participate in these discussions, |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 07:24 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Well, that's quite a red herring you've introduced. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-31-06 12:15 PM Response to Reply #78 |
95. Darned if you do and darned if you don't, for sure. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
86. Implicit in this question is that... |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 03:18 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. uh oh: "how can I be against the death penalty and war but for abortion?" |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-31-06 05:04 AM Response to Reply #87 |
93. Perhaps I should have been clearer... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 08:35 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. But this isn't about preaching. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-31-06 05:00 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. I still don't see why I.... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-31-06 08:11 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Then why are you a Democrat? |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 01:48 AM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Still don't get it, eh? If... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. No, I don't get the attitude |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 12:26 AM Response to Reply #100 |
108. They're not on a pedestal, they are... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 09:37 AM Response to Reply #108 |
122. "aren't worth getting into"??? |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:21 AM Response to Reply #92 |
103. There aren't a million sects because religious arguments bear fruit. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:47 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Oh please. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 01:29 AM Response to Reply #104 |
119. Deleted sub-thread |
WoodrowFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
89. I'm too busy making fun of woo-woos! |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
102. I am a liberal and a Christian, I feel that God created us |
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