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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:44 PM
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Poll question: Have you ever changed religion?
This is just me wondering so if you could, take a minute and answer the poll.

This IS NOT about judging if one choice is better then another and you don't have to explain or justify your choices. I really just want to know. However if you want to explain anything (especially if you chose 'Other" or "I've always been my religion, I just grew up in the wrong church", I would appreciate it.

For instance, I am a Pagan and have always felt like one. A lot of my religious beliefs I have had since as long as I can remember. BUT I was raised Catholic.

Thanks for your time.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:46 PM
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1. I've always been my faith
but I did doubt for a while everything. I'm way more spiritual than most Christians I think. I do have the ability of a sensitive empath and have had a few vision's and things like that. :blush: But I still am a Christian. :)
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:48 PM
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2. I was religious but now am a agnostic...barely
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 01:48 PM by YOY
Old habits die hard...and I think agnosticism works better than Atheism personally....plus there's none of the smugness.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:50 PM
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4. smugness?
you fence sitter you...;-)
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:52 PM
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Sorry Finder, I just calls it like I sees it
And in religion most POVs are valid...most! :silly:
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:51 PM
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5. Agnosticism works for me (n/t)
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:49 PM
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48. Besides that...
Being agnostic rather than atheist denotes a mind still open to seeking, to new information and insights -- the "Church of Possibilities," as I like to call it.

:)
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:52 PM
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6. Visions? Do tell...
we atheists never get to have visions...;(
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:02 PM
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17. A lot of them are mostly personal
:blush: Things with my life. I have seen a few things politically but far into the future sadly. You can't control it and it happens whenever you least expect it.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:49 PM
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3. You forgot one
I was religious but now am agnostic. There is a difference. Atheists know there is no God. Agnostics don't think one can know either way. The Flying Spaghetti Monster makes more sense every day I witness the Bush cabal.
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:53 PM
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9. I also ran out of room
Sorry , religion is to broad a topic to get everybody in only 10 catagories.
;-)
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:10 PM
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24. The dividing lines are far from clear...
For some values of god, I think it's possible such gods exist, think it would be possible to have evidence of them, but have absolutely no such evidence in hand, and so don't believe in them. For other values of god, I can provide proof they don't exist. For yet other values of god, it might be impossible to know one way, or the other, or either way.

Still, there is no god I believe in, so I think "atheist" sums it up best.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:35 PM
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49. about "atheist"
A common definition of "atheist" is "one who lacks a belief in gods." As in a=not and theist=one who believes in gods. Relatively few atheists will make a positive claim that there are no gods. So you might have more in common with atheists than you imagine.

I think the word "nontheist" might also be helpful for some people, defined to mean, "one who is not interested in whether gods exist." :)
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:52 PM
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7. I was raised Presbyterian ..
exited the faith at age 15, did not participate in any organized religion, and found an alternative religion (outside the mainstream) when I was 45: Church of Religious Science ( www.rsintl.org ).
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:52 PM
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8. well, christianity isn't even a stones throw
from the old faith.

especially the liturgical churches like catholics, episcopalians, etc.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:53 PM
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10. I like to think that my concepts of God evolved
and have changed greatly in my life. I was raised in the Methodist Church, and even while still in that denomination had some profound changes in my beliefs. But some things have remained the same-the quest for personal direct experience with the Divine, cultivating an inner life, knowing that helping others is important in my life. I was led to Sufism in my late thirties, and feel that the Order to which I belong is "home". But since one of our sayings is "Shatter your ideals on the Rock of Truth", I realize that faith is a living, growing thing-and Who knows how it will evolve from this point onward?
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proiowadem Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:54 PM
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11. Here is my belief breakdown
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 01:55 PM by proiowadem
75% is sure there is no "god"
15% wonders that if there is a "god" it is everything in this Universe
9% thinks the Greeks were right, ALL HAIL ATHENA
and 1% is absolutely convinced that we were sneezed from a turtle
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proiowadem Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:03 PM
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19. Who here believes in reversed moral cause and effect?
Basically that certain things are "bad" in religion because they are "bad" for humanity in general, as opposed to things being "bad" because of religion.
Its a theory I first picked up from reading a Ben Franklin biography, and it struck a chord with me.
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:11 PM
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25. Ah - Ben Franklin. The guy who got me to think
about religion.

Welcome to DU!:hi:
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:03 PM
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20. lol
Nice...

Welcome to DU!
:toast:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:54 PM
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12. I've tried to change religion but they don't pay attention to me.
It's very very frustrating don't you know?
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:57 PM
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I'd have to be "other" I've always been an atheist, raised an atheist.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:57 PM
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13. I'd have to be "other" I've always been an atheist, raised an atheist.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:32 AM
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46. Does the double post mean you're a "born again" atheist?
... or just twice as sure?

:evilgrin:
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:57 PM
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14. I was raised non-denominational Christian, now I'm agnostic...
...bordering on atheist. I just don't trust that anyone here knows a damn thing about what's outside of our extremely limited perceptions, and I especially don't trust people who claim they do.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:58 PM
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15. started out christian
moved briefly to agnosticism, now back to a liberal christianity
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 06:29 AM
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58. Just curious as to why you went back.
Did you believe deep down all along on a rational level, or were you drawn back to liberal Christianity on a more emotional or social level?
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 06:30 AM
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59. self-delete
Edited on Sat Dec-03-05 06:30 AM by funflower
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:59 PM
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16. Agnostic Atheist here, although Wicca is appealing. n/t
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:03 PM
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18. Thank god, I'm an atheist !
:rofl:
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:06 PM
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21. What are you if you're not even Athiest
Doesn't being an Athiest, thinking that you see no evidence that God exists, infer that you've thought about it?

I never really thought about it much. Wasn't raised with any religion at all. Bible stories sat on the shelf next to Greek Myth books. It'd be like saying a non-hellenotheist doesn't see any evidnece for the existance of the greek pantheon as being real. Well, I don't think Zeus or Athena is real, so I guess that makes me a non-hellenotheist, and I don't believe in God so I guess that makes me an Athiest.

It's just never really been a factor in my life even to think about it. If someone were to ask me "Do you believe in God?" I hear it on the same wavelength as "Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy."

I'm not 'being smug' as some think when I make that comparison. It's just how insane the question seems to me. "Have you found Jesus?" is no different in my head than someone saying "Have you found Apollo?"

And to date nobody has ever really been able to explain to me how those questions are different.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:13 PM
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26. Maybe you're a non-practicing atheist.
:shrug:
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:43 PM
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35. if someone asked me if i found jesus i would tell them that i
didn't know he was lost.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:12 PM
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39. Atheism includes not believing in Greek gods too
It's not 'non-monotheism', it's 'not believing in any god'. I'd say your participation here shows that you've thought about it enough for it to have been a real choice of yours. You might argue whether someone who has never heard of any god is truly atheist, but you clearly have.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:07 PM
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22. I changed
I was raised Southern Baptise and am leaning toward Judism.

Still an internal struggle.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:18 PM
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29. No offense, but if you're leaning toward it you should learn how to spell
it.

It's Judaism.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:07 PM
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23. I was raised Unitarian Universalist
There's nothing to "switch from," since you can believe anything you want.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 03:36 PM
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37. I switched out
yes, it can be done.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:14 PM
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27. I would say I'm a Deist now
I was a Christian, but I left the Catholic Church after I found out my cardinal was switching around child molesters. I couldn't believe the sheer hypocrisy, and then I questioned why they were any better at being my religious authority than I was at being my own religious authority for me alone.

I found Deism a couple of years back.

"Deism is a free-thought philosophy, much like Agnosticism, Atheism or Pantheism in that it rejects the dogmas and superstitions of religion in favor of individual reason and empirical observation of the universe. Deism differs from these other free-thought philosophies in that it sees an order and architecture to the universe that indicates a Creator. The word 'God' is used to describe this creator, not to be confused with the 'Biblegod.'"

http://www.deism.org/

No, I don't believe in Creationism or Creationism masquerading as ID. The scientific evidence gathered points to a different direction.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:44 AM
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47. Same sort of thing here
Brought up as a Catholic (strict at school, liberal at home). Liked a
lot of the Jesuit teachings and philosophies but disagreed with much of
the orthodox views as I grew older.

Married as an Anglican - my wife's faith - as the vicar concerned was
a real-world person who I liked (rather than a dogmatic stamping from
the God-machine factory). Only contact with the church is via music
or to support family/friends (children's events, funerals, etc.).

Have been interested in Buddhism & Taoism over the years but neither
of them "seriously". Have looked into a number of religions from an
academic/curiosity perspective but have remained a non-denominational
Deist throughout most of my life.

Put myself down as a Jedi on the most recent UK Census as I disagreed
with the other tick-boxes. (It fits the bill ... if only I could make
a light-saber then I'd be well set!)

:-)
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:15 PM
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28. Raised a Protestant but consider myself a Buddhist
Who married a Jew and raised our children with Jewish traditions.
I never joined a Buddhist temple but believe in the tenets of Buddism
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:21 PM
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30. Christian turned agnostic - I read the Dalai Lama though
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Goldensilence Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:26 PM
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32. was raised catholic
but consider myself buddhist...too bad not near a temple in texas.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:22 PM
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31. I was raised atheist, converted to Christianity.
Not in the sense that my parents taught me to not believe in God. They never talked religion, period. I wouldn't have wanted them to pick my religion for me, but I would have appreciated it if they would have talked about it, and helped me understand it. No dice.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:34 PM
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33. Other: As a kid I'd change like a chameleon.
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 02:35 PM by Ready4Change
Whoever spoke with authority I'd buy right in. Don't know why some cult didn't haul me in, I was primed for it.

I guess, in my defense, I had a stronger inner cynicalism than I tend to remember. In whatever "church" I was in, for whatever reason, I always seemed to view all the trappings with, I dunno. Estimation?

What is that for? Why is that needed? Who says? If it's about God, not money, why all the money? If it's about listening to inner voices, why listen to preaching?

Finally, I've admitted to casting myself away from established religion. Even from the new agey paganism of some of my friends. Too indoctrinary. To much "this is how it should/will be done."

So I'd say, at this point, my religion is in a constant infinity of flux. Just seems "righter" that way.

To me.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:36 PM
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34. well i checked other -- so i guess i should explain. i was raised
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 02:39 PM by catmother
catholic -- catholic schools. when i was about 20-21 i stopped going to church -- not that i went every sunday. then i went through a period of believing that life was hell and death was heaven, i.e., just a deep sleep.

then mid 70s i started reading about edgar cayce (i was about 30 then) -- took it with a grain of salt. but around 1980 my nephew who was a young child starting having past life experiences. if my sister sees this thread, she'll probably tell you about it. so i started to read metaphysical books -- actually i devoured them -- i couldn't get enough. i started to believe in reincarnation and karma. i studied with 2 different spirtual teachers.

now i'm 64 and i don't practice any formal religion but my beliefs lean towards buddhism. however i also find wicca very interesting, but i've heard that many wiccans are not practising the true wicca.

on edit: have had quite a few experiences with those who have passed away (spirits) even animal spirits. sometimes i think one of my cats has jumped on my bed and i look and there's no cat there. i also experienced my late dog running across my bed. she was a shittzu and had quite a unique little walk.


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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 03:01 PM
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36. Another Agnostic.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 06:48 PM
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38. Always been the same
though I was much more agnostic during College. I am going against the grain with each hear so I am probably pushing towards a excommunication sometime in the future.
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:51 PM
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40. Raised in the ECC (basically Lutheran), then my dad went crazy fundie
I'm sort of Lutherpalian right now, when I do go to church, it's to the local Episcopal chapel, but really, I'm just some variety of Protestant.
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:03 AM
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41. There are a lot of "dual" Jews
A survey I saw a while back said about 50% of Reform Rabbi's are agnostic -- much less the Reconstructionist and Humanist Jews.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:37 PM
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42. I've shifted around a fair bit
Raised as a lukewarm Congregationalist, I took up Wicca in my mid teens. For the next 20 years, I had trouble deciding between Wicca and Christianity and ended up doing ministry work in both religions. Nowadays, I define my beliefs when forced as "agnostic neo-pagan humanist."
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Vividqueen Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:36 PM
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43. From Nothing to Jew
I was not really raised anything, but converted recently to Conservative Judaism!
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 06:13 PM
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53. Mazel tov!
That was my dream, but my nonpracticing Catholic husband was not exactly supportive.
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Vividqueen Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 03:09 PM
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54. Too bad, my non practicing husband
was very supportive. But he wasn't raised with any religious background either. He just wants me to be happy (and I can't complain when he goes to play golf on Saturday).
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 12:20 AM
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56. Good for him. And welcome to DU!
:hi:
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catbert836 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 06:29 PM
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44. Constantly on the spiritual move
Like Pi, I see a new religion and adopt it, discarding it as soon as a new one comes along. I've been a Catholic, athiest, Muslim, Jew, pagan, nature-worshipper, panthiest, and "god" knows what else.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:27 PM
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45. ELCA-Lutheran to LCMS-Lutheran
CCM with the Episcopalians, Joint Communion with the Presbyterians, and The Joint Statement on Justification with the Vatican convinced me that the ELCA was not taking its theology seriously enough.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 04:08 PM
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50. I never was never religious.
I didn't see that choice, so I put other. Technically, I did belong to a church as a child, but stopped going as soon as soon as I could resist my father's will to make me go. Unpleasant memories, but he meant well.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:46 PM
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51. ELCA Lutheran to Episcopalian
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 07:48 PM by Lydia Leftcoast
It's a better fit for me sociologically and emotionally.

Also, they don't probe too deeply into one's beliefs.

I'm definitely a theist, but I also believe that God is too overwhelmingly large and complex to be grasped by the human mind so that each variety of religion is merely an approximation and an attempt to get in touch with the divine. So when people say, "Yes, but the world wasn't created in six days" or "Jesus didn't really walk on water," I say, "Yes, I know, and it doesn't matter, becauuse it's not the point."

For me, the keys to spirituality are liturgy, music, meditation, and "being God's hands and voice in the world."

For others, it may be mantras or assembling in the woods or davening or saying the Nenbutsu.

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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 06:11 PM
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52. Changed and went back again.
Guess I'm the only one so far who answered that way! I was raised church-free but to believe in God, so I sort of made up my own mental picture of deity. In my mid-20s I became an LCMS Lutheran born-again Christian and drove my family nutz for about a decade with that. Started disagreeing with a lot of Paul's writings and over the course of about 5 years explored Messianic Judaism (yes, I know that's an oxymoron), then Judaism, and then settled nicely into neo-paganism, which seems to line up well with my original ideas about how things work.
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MISSDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 07:13 PM
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55. I read in one of my endless stream of self help books that
it doesn't really matter which religious/spiritual path you choose. Just choose one and get on with it. Personally, I would hate to think of trying to navigate this life without my belief in God. I was raised Methodist changed to and was confirmed into the Episcopal Church and then went back to the Methodists.
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 03:50 PM
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57. Raised religious (not strongly), then we went to UU
churches by my teens; became a strong atheist on my own in early teens.
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 06:31 AM
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60. I'm an agnostic/liberal Christian/Buddhist/FSM. Gotta a spot for me?
Oh, yeah. I was brought up an evangelical.
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