Vatican rejects cover-up claims over Cloyne report

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The Vatican has rejected claims by Irish PM Enda Kenny that it sabotaged efforts by Irish bishops to report child-molesting priests to police.

It follows the damning Cloyne Report that showed how allegations of clerical sex-abuse in Cork had been covered up.

In a speech to parliament in July, Mr Kenny accused the Church of putting its reputation ahead of abuse victims

The Vatican said it was "sorry and ashamed" over the scandal but said his claims were "unfounded".

"The Holy See is deeply concerned at the findings of the commission of inquiry concerning grave failures in the ecclesiastical governance of the diocese of Cloyne," said the Vatican, in a detailed response to the allegations.

"The Holy See... in no way hampered or sought to interfere in any inquiry into cases of child sex abuse in the Diocese of Cloyne."

"Furthermore, at no stage did the Holy See seek to interfere with Irish civil law or impede the civil authority in the exercise of its duties."

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"The rape and torture of children were downplayed or 'managed' to uphold instead the primacy of the institution, its power, standing and 'reputation'," he said.

Parliament then passed a motion deploring the Holy See for "undermining child protection frameworks" after a letter to Irish bishops appeared to diminish Irish guidelines on reporting sex abuse by referring to them as "study guidelines".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14774142

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What a bunch of lying liars. :puke:

And a double :puke: :puke: for those that defend this organization either outright or with their silent membership.

[cleanhippie]

1. kick

[darkstar3]

2. The reason you had to kick the thread

is because everyone outside the circle has already known this, and has nothing further to add, while everyone inside the circle wishes it would sink.

[rizlaplus]

3. State of play | Vatican VS Republic of Ireland

The argument is:
Cardinal Ratzinger says that the standards of democratic civil society do not apply to the church.

'Standards of conduct appropriate to civil society or the workings of a democracy cannot be purely and simply applied to the Church.'

The Taoiseach Enda Kenny says: I am making it absolutely clear, that when it comes to the protection of the children of this State, the standards of conduct which the Church deems appropriate to itself, cannot and will not, be applied to the workings of democracy and civil society in this republic.

Ratzinger's response: The Holy See expects the Irish Bishops to cooperate with the civil authorities, to implement fully the norms of canon law.

Basically the Holy See is placing it's rules and regulations, AKA canon law, ahead of the laws of democratic society.

The Taoiseach's riposte to that was to welcome the Holy See's commitment to dialogue and co-operation with the Government. "In welcoming this commitment, the Government expects the fullest co-operation from the Holy See, the Catholic Church in Ireland and all other relevant bodies with a view to ensuring that Ireland is a society fully safe for children and minors and that all of those with responsibility for the welfare and care of children in this country are fully subject to Irish laws and requirements,"

Points to note:

Mandatory reporting of child abuse is STILL forbidden by the Church's canon law rules.

Ratzinger, when head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), personally investigated 3,000 cases of child abuse, and he did not refer ANY of those cases to the civil authorities nor did he recommend to the bishops, in authority over the abusing clergy, to pass the cases on to the civil and legal authorities in their respective countries.

The Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) is the office in the Vatican that ignored requests from the Murphy Commission for cooperation into its inquiry. They never even bothered to acknowledge the Murphy Commission's requests.

Some of the information the Murphy Commission requested may reference Ratzinger's role in the cover-up of child abuse by clergy. It is more than likely that Ratzinger handled several cases of child abuse from Ireland.

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4. The rape and torture of children were downplayed or 'managed'

There's not enough sunlight in the world to shine on the shadows these despicable wastes of humainty hide behind.

Thier OWN book warns of them

Luke 20:46
"Beware of these teachers of religious law! For they like to parade around in flowing robes and love to receive respectful greetings as they walk in the marketplaces. And how they love the seats of honor in the synagogues and the head table at banquets." (Oh yeah, they also like to rape and torture children... sorry forgot to mention that! Watch out for the whole raping and torturing your kids thing, and the mafia money laundering, and the discrimination, in fact really, don't trust them AT ALL, with ANYTHING... ever)

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