Anything in the spiritual could be said someone taking credit for what they have not done.
Side note, my only claim is that I am due beer and travel money.
The easiest way for that to occur is the Babe Ruth argument.
If he points to the fence, and you see that. Then you see the ball go over the fence. Are you sure he hit the ball that way?
Collective Soul - Shine (Video) (look for the action, not the nouns)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m0bI82Rz_kAnd in the supernatural, the bat on the ball is not visible. You can see a start in the normal, and a finish in the normal, but the process of the supernatural happens in a form of the unseen, specifically 'how you see it'
Therefore Did Babe Ruth hit any home runs.
Or was it a Designated Hitter, like Derek Halfhand
DH
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Side note, the existence of the supernatural is proven, as is the debt of beer and travel money, but do people believe what is proven, or choose things to believe, to defend what they want to believe.
Brothers in Arms - Dire Straits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5JkHBC5lDsBonnie Raitt - I Can't Make You Love Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW9Cu6GYqxoBonnie Raitt - Nick Of Time
http://www.123video.nl/playvideos.asp?MovieID=407128Dire Straits - Walk of Life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZxVC0GB838Constantine - Bring me to life (Evanescence)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx8d3K_hngw