Christian DUer's check-in thread

[bobthedrummer]

:hi:

[Lucian]

1. Is there a point to this thread?

Seems divisive and pointless.

[bobthedrummer]

2. I take it you're not a believer, yet.

:hi:

[Lucian]

4. I will never be a believer.

I use critical reasoning and rational thinking to explain events in my life.

[LanternWaste]

20. Self-validation at the expense of others also seems pointless and divisive

Self-validation at the expense of others also seems pointless and divisive. :shrug:


However, I imagine there is truth in the adage that we quite often hold others to a higher standard than we hold ourselves to.

[dmallind]

46. So what DOES happen to atheists after they die? And to you?

Or is that not self-validation and pointlessly divisive?

[cleanhippie]

51. The same thing that happens to all of us.

We rot and return to the earth. Thats a fact. Not disputable.

[dmallind]

55. OK you got me - too lazy to type out "what, in the Christian belief system, happens......" nt

[KittyWampus]

25. You must have a heck of a love life.

[cleanhippie]

52. What does that even mean? And why do you have to be so insulting?

[cleanhippie]

49. Oh, look, christian condescension is your first response. How expected.

:puke:

[pipi_k]

17. I wonder

too.

What is the point...


And what is the point when someone announces his/her Christianity like it's supposed to be some kind of guarantee that s/he is a good and honorable person.

Someone is accused of being a thief..."Judge, I'm a GOOD CHRISTIAN WOMAN!!! I would never do something like that!!"

It's like Christians, by being Christians, are somehow better than everybody else. Especially total nonbelievers.

Jews can't be honest and honorable. Muslims can't be honest and honorable. And there's no way in hell an Atheist can be honest and honorable!

I know Christians who would have scoffed at the May 21st Rapture silliness, but who still emit undertones of something like superiority over my Agnostic/Atheistic self. Like I'm just some dumb creature to be pitied.

Geez...why do I hate Religion in general, and Christianity in particular?

:eyes:

[LanternWaste]

24. I imagine it's little different than asking...

I imagine it's little different than asking Progressives, Beatles Fans, Stoics or Union Supporters to check in.

[pipi_k]

37. I agree, to some extent...

Just like the "K & R if you ___________" threads.

Or the "Please help me DU this poll" threads.

OR the "Let's all boycott _______" threads.


They're all pointless too, and I've sometimes gone in and said so.


But the part I find disagreeable is how Christians feel they have to constantly advertise their faith. How they have to unite because they are so "persecuted", even though they appear not to know the meaning of the word. In fact, according to one definition of the word...

2. to annoy with persistent or urgent approaches (as attacks, pleas, or importunities) : pester

it's disbelievers and people of other faiths who are being persecuted by Christians who annoy, pester, or plead with us to believe what they do. Or when Christians want to run the country based on their religious beliefs like the rest of us don't have any rights at all to live our own lives free from religious tomfoolery.


Even some of my less extreme Christian friends have some strange ideas.

Not something I'd be proud of...

[Dreamer Tatum]

34. Because your POV isn't being extolled, yes? nt

[WilliamPitt]

41. To piss you off

apparently.

It isn't divisive to have all the nut-kicking aimed at Christians that goes on around here.

I stay out of it, but thought I'd say :hi: in this thread.

[Octafish]

3. Wouldn't get Raptured without ya, bobthedrummer!

Being a natural born "Left Behind" is a story in itself, actually.

[bobthedrummer]

6. This Christian leftie likes Blondie's "Rapture" over the LaHaye brainwashing

In the Bible Jesus Christ is the most influential critic of religious hypocrisy and religious leaders ever.

[Octafish]

12. His philosophy has stood the test of time.

Love God.

Love One Another.

[bobthedrummer]

14. Amen. Love our enemies too. n/t

[NV Whino]

5. Can't

They've all been raptured.

[quinnox]

7. This is pointless

[bobthedrummer]

9. Then so is our Constitution and every citizen that believes in a spiritual dimension n/t

[cleanhippie]

53. That makes no sense whatsoever.

[hfojvt]

8. KNR

While we may not out-number the Christian-bashers here, why not show that there are a few.


Although I sorta have to hope that my presence here doesn't discredit the whole group.


I'm pretty sure if this was a democracy, I'd be voted off the island.

[kctim]

10. No Christian here

big atheist actually. But I support you guys with all I have.
Good post with good intentions BTD.

[The Straight Story]

11. Checking in (nt)

[Jack Sprat]

13. Yes, well I don't know why we need to check-in?

This past week has been ridiculous. Christians do not need this sort of notoriety. Can't we sustain ourselves within our own spirituality without creating such a scene? The preachers talking about rapture, the Kansas group demonstrating at soldiers' gravesites, and the Florida showmaster burning a Koran make us all look unbalanced and wild-assed. Enough of this, I say. I'm almost ready to ban religion if it keeps getting this crazy.

[AlabamaLibrul]

15. Most of my family is Chrstian - I guess I'll check in on their behalf. They're still here nt

[gratuitous]

16. I'm a bit busy with disaster relief

But I'll take a moment to check in.

[pipi_k]

21. Thank you...A Christian

out doing Jesus's work instead of sitting around wretching at others and thinking we're all assholes for not believing.

You have my utmost respect.

[jorno67]

27. Present

[cleanhippie]

54. Yeah, like these guys!

www.redcross.org


Oh, wait. The Red Cross is secular. I guess if its not "jesus' work" it worthless, huh?

[jefferson_dem]

18. I'm no more a Christian than I am a Hindu or a Buddhist...

But I totally appreciate and support your "cause". It's a shame that anti-religious bigotry is tolerated here on DU. Stay strong. :hi:

[MineralMan]

19. Why do you care who's a Christian and who is not?

This seems silly and divisive to me.

[Blue_In_AK]

22. I'm not really a Christian anymore, bobthedrummer,

but as I stated here a few days ago I AM a Jesusonian. You really can't go wrong if you follow the teachings.

[cordelia]

23. I like that.

Jesus had some pretty good and simple rules than can hold one in good stead. I try and follow those tenets.

If by doing so makes me a Christian, then that's fine.

[KittyWampus]

26. I am a Christian only in the Rosicrucian sense of the word. Left the Church long ago

as I am not dogmatic.

[TBF]

28. A little tolerance goes a long way -

My family is Methodist, I wouldn't really call myself religious, but perhaps spiritual. I do believe there are things out there we don't understand. Sorry to see the bashing in this thread, sad really.

[DevonRex]

30. That was a very nice post.

So good to see the nice ones.

[DevonRex]

29. I take some common truths from several philosophies and faiths

and make them my own. From christianity I take the words of Christ and not those of Paul. So I'll check in. :hi:

[Blue_In_AK]

33. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who has issues with Paul.

I think he totally perverted the message.

[DevonRex]

42. So do I. Have you read the gospel of St Peter?

It says that ALL people will be forgiven their sins and be admitted to heaven. So of course it was excluded from the bible, in preference for the severe and misogynist and homophobic Paul.

Glad to meet another person who shares my disdain for Pail, too. :hi:

[Rowdyboy]

31. Practicing Eliscopalian....

and if I keep practicing someday I may become a "good" one.

[H2O Man]

32. I am,

among many other things, a christian. I think that the prophet Jesus laid out clear guidelines for proper human behavior, and represents the highest in human potential.

[Dreamer Tatum]

35. Notice the one OP you'd think an atheist is safe skipping, or hiding

they come out in droves.

[pipi_k]

38. Simple explanation, really...

We're Atheists.

Everyone knows that Atheists are lacking in moral fiber and self control.

Have pity on us...we can't help it.

:7

[polmaven]

36. Still here!!!

Don't know anyone who has disappeared, so I guess his math was off again...I wonder if he will sue his school district.

[Matariki]

39. Not a Christian, but support you.

Too much self righteous religion bashing on DU.

[WilliamPitt]

40. Yo.

[rug]

43. Here

:hi:

[AlecBGreen]

44. beunos tardes amigo

:bounce:

[struggle4progress]

45. "Only an atheist can be a good Christian. Only a Christian can be a good atheist"

"An interview with Jürgen Moltmann" by Miroslav Volf
in Communities of faith and radical discipleship edited by G. McLeod Bryan
Mercer University: Macon 1986
... Bloch has written a book about atheism and Christianity; it first appeared with the subtitle "Only an Atheist Can Be a Good Christian." I mentioned that it should be the other way around: only a Christian can be a good atheist. Bloch then used that statement as the second subtitle of his book. He meant that only an atheist who does not worship false religious and economic gods can be a good Christian. I meant that only a Christian who believes in the crucified Jesus is free from the pressure to create gods and idols for himself. On this issue Bloch and I have come near to each other ...
http://www.atheisms.info/atheisms/moltman.html

[Critters2]

50. Thanks for this. I love Moltmann. He led me to Girard. Which led me to Volf.

Looks like I have a book to buy.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

47. Late checking in--I was on vacation

Liberal Episcopalian

[kwassa]

48. checking in ....

[okasha]

56. Pagan here

Back after a long absence, checking in in solidarity.