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Obamaknowzz (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 03:27 PM Original message |
"Secular schools can never be tolerated because..... |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. Hitler said it then. Many like-minded 'Murkins are saying it today. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Perhaps one generally ought not to quote Hitler: he was a notorious liar, |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. You thought it was necessary to point out that Hitler was not to be trusted? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. It's appropriate to remember, when someone quotes him to prove some point |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. What point do you think the OP was proving? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Here's an interesting fact! It's possible to quote somebody to prove a point |
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Obamaknowzz (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Hitler's actions ("Iron fist")in the streets of Germany were well known |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Your crankish approach to history will produce no insight or understanding into |
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Obamaknowzz (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Well, that's exactly what your are doing here, since you haven't |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Vide #13, #16, #17, #18 infra |
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Obamaknowzz (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Don't tell me......You don't know about the Vatican and "ratlines", etc??? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. If you are asking whether I think the Vatican had an official policy |
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Obamaknowzz (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 06:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Forget it. Neverfucking mind. I am not wasting my time on people |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. You are talking to someone who has an agenda |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I don't think that I've ever made that particular claim, since my |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Close, but not quite |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Even totalitarian tyrants operate under political constraints: |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Non-Sequitur. |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Then the church needs to release the pope's papers for that time period |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Hitler was a devote Catholic |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. If so, you ought to be able to demonstrate some standard indicators |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I'll try again: WHAT point do you think the poster was trying to prove? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Let's not play coy games |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. That's what you call a direct question? A coy game? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. I actually answered your question in #21 |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. Translated: the children won't learn how to obey without thinking first if they are in secular |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I think the point is |
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Obamaknowzz (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. That's interesting. I'm going to look into that claim by the Righties. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. Um... |
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Obamaknowzz (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. ...... |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Godwin's Law is total bullshit |
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Obamaknowzz (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Godwin's law |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. As an online discussion grows longer the probability of someone citing Godwin's law approaches 1. nt |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Very true. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
37. Godwin's Law has failed here because the thread began with a Hitler/Nazi/Holocaust reference and |
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Obamaknowzz (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. ....... |
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Obamaknowzz (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. More... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. See the account of his former roommate, August Kubizek, "The Young Hitler I Knew" at p 95 |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. Religion and the Reich |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. Susannah Heschel on the Nazi Church |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
13. It's a bit of a shame to treat Helmreich's book as you do, given what |
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Obamaknowzz (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. A shame? So you think this is about Helmreich's book? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Helmreich make a careful attempt to describe accurately what happened |
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Obamaknowzz (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. How has what I posted conflict with Helmreich's take? .... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Here, let me explain. |
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Obamaknowzz (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. It is easy to dissemble as struggleforwhatever is doing when... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Three Sermons in Defiance of the Nazis by Bishop von Galen |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. ... Charges Raised against Galen as a Result |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Catholic Theologians in Nazi Germany |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-10 06:11 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Twenty-Ninth Day: Tuesday, January 8th, 1946 |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-10 06:54 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Yes, that's true. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-10 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
49. I'll bite. |
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