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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 04:17 PM Original message |
Paulism vs Jesus |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. I think it's safe to say that Paul's message was hijacked by other people. |
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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I have no religious education..... |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Interesting. a question for you |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. GARY Wills (not George Wills- I thought they were the same person for years!) |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Thanks! I will look those up. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. The true Christian church (i.e. the one actually founded by JC and His apostles) |
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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Thanks... |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. this is what I posted an another thread yesterday. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. Paul was a Roman, who adapted a Jewish messianic cult |
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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Some questions.... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Saul/Paul was a first century Jew with Roman citizenship: then, as now, there were |
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dimbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. This is an excellent summary of the facts on the ground. Let me add |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
12. And, imho, the current "Paulist" church teachings are being supplanted |
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tiny elvis (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 01:14 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. writing of revelation guessed at about 90 ad |
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Execlib (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. lapfog and GE-COS reference. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
13. yes it was... |
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wellstone dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
14. I'm a RED LETTER Christian |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. How do you determine which of those red letters to take literally and which to take non-literally?nt |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-08-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Unfortunately, the accuracy of the gospels are highly suspect. |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
30. The bliss of |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-08-09 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
16. "Paulism" IS Christianity... |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. We have a winner. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Bingo. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Paul makes reference to the fact |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Romans 1:1-4 must refer to someone else. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Yes, and we all know there are no contradictions in the BIble. n/t |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 07:16 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Romans 1:1-4 |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Paul never saw the resurrected body of Christ but he did not deny he physically resurrected. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 08:35 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. 1 Corinthians 15:12-13 does not mention a physical resurrection either. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Does too. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 03:53 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Paul wrote of Jesus as an allegory. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 07:50 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Do you have a more substantial citation for this proposition than an R/T thread? |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Yes. My opinion means more than yours. |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 07:26 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Paul's writings (the original bits without the add-ons) are quite gnostic in approach ... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-11 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
34. Paul is a mixed bag, but some of his work is excellent: |
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