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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 12:48 AM
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Jesus ‘may have visited Britain’
Hey, I just ran into this story. LDS believes Jesus came to America and preached to the Native Americans, so why not a detour to Britain?

Jesus ‘may have visited Britain’

Thursday, 26 November 2009


A new film suggests Jesus may have come to Britain, as described in the hymn Jerusalem, its director said.

The documentary — And Did Those Feet — explores the story behind the legend which survives in the hymn.

It claims Jesus visited several places in the West Country, such as the Roseland peninsula and Glastonbury with his uncle, Joseph of Arimathaea.

In the film, researcher Dr Gordon Strachan said it is plausible Jesus may have visited Britain to further his learning.

Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/jesus-lsquomay-have-visited-britainrsquo-14574628.html#ixzz0YDzLNiwA
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 12:50 AM
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1. Jesus had air miles.
Edited on Sun Nov-29-09 12:52 AM by Bozita
He got 'em by chasing the banksters out of the temple.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 12:51 AM
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2. Readying some old books on the rise of religion
and how Christ is that close to Mithra... and far more likely than the LDS...

He is also that close to so many other myths of the near east (Horus, Isis, Osiris) that it is fascinating.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 01:40 AM
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3. Britain, America, Japan
The question is becoming -- who hasn't He preached to?

To penguins, I guess. I wouldn't hold out for evidence of that never coming to light, though.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 02:08 AM
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5. I heard India mentioned as a possibility the other day N/T
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 02:43 AM
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7. The legends about Jesus in Japan are almost certainly a legacy of the Portuguese era
After the shogunate began banning Christianity in the late 16th century and expelling priests, some of them remained in Japan underground.

The area where Jesus is alleged to have lived is in the boonies in the northern part of the country. It's easy to imagine a Portuguese priest, on the run for years, finally deciding that he was far enough away from the reach of the officials to settle down among the local population.

Over the years, the folk process turned the foreigner who told stories about Jesus into Jesus himself.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 03:07 AM
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8. I've considered that too
But man, that's a heck of a trek from Kyushu to the hinterlands, at a time when thoroughfares were checkpointed and patrolled. Anyone who'd run that gauntlet had a desire to remain in country that bordered on the insane.

Still, it seems the most plausible reason for that weird little enigma. That was certainly a missionary on a mission.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 03:13 AM
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9. Not all the missionaries were in Kyushu, and travel certainly was possible
The daimyo were required to travel from their home estates to Tokyo every other year.

There could have been kind of an underground railroad among the kakure-Kirishitan.

As for staying in the country, once the majority of other missionaries had left, the remaining priests and monks were stuck, since overseas travel was forbidden. Those who stayed back must have regretted their decision as the years dragged on and the authorities closed in, but there wasn't anything they could do about it.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 03:30 AM
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10. Ah, I didn't know those things
I thought there were no Portuguese outside their western enclave and I didn't know any chose to remain. A foreigner who decided to travel would be in a pickle; avoiding roads would mean slogging over hundreds of miles of mountains.

Thanks, Lydia.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 03:31 PM
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20. It was the Dutch who were not allowed outside their enclave
and precisely because the Portuguese had had free run of the country. We know they got at least as far as Kyoto, if not farther, although Kyushu was their base.

The Dutch convinced the Japanese that they weren't the same religion as the Portuguese (although some were Catholic, most were Calvinists), but they were confined to the island of Dejima in Nagasaki harbor.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 02:06 AM
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4. He had a better chance of visiting Britain than he did America.
Some believe he visited India and picked up on the teachings of Buddha. There were those year from the time he was taken to the Temple in Jerusalem when he was thirteen and came on to the scene when he was thirty and in between those years nothing is written about him. So much of his teachings are very much in the traditions of the Buddhists. I know the British royalty very much wanted to establish a lineage between them and Jesus and so tried to make a claim that he was there during those years. All kings want to cement their power by claiming they are decendents of a god. Glastonbury of course is the mythological location of Avalon of Arthurian legends and where the Holy Grail is supposed to reside.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 02:18 AM
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6. Or at least His Feet did


And did those feet in ancient time,
Walk upon England's mountains green:
And was the holy Lamb of God,
On England's pleasant pastures Sppbbttt!
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Tabasco_Dave Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 04:18 AM
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11. The Monty Python show did a song parody about it too
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 04:49 AM
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12. The Gospel of St. Thames?
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 05:53 AM
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13. You know, now that you mention it.....
- I believe I do remember reading something about that in the newspapers. He was on tour debating the Devil. Something about: "Is it a sin to turn stones into bread for the poor and homeless," or something like that. They say Lucifer was wiping up the floor with him.

Anyways, after that ended then he went on "Britain's Got Talent" and they didn't know he could sing cause he just looked all homely and everything with his country bumpkins clothes and stuff. But the next thing you know he was in a Viking Long Boat (the Concorde of the time) on his way to America. The rest, as they say) is His-Story......


But like so many who've come here before seeking their fame and fortune, his material just didn't translate well to the big screen. Really put folks to sleep, you know? Haven't heard what he's been up to lately though.

You heard anything???
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 06:22 AM
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14. Unless he was a carpenter and not a student.
Carpenters had limited travel capabilities.

It really hurts to worship someone from the Middle East who was not a blue-eyed blond, I do understand.

It's one of the reasons we Jews decided not to have pictures of God. Some things we just don't wanna know.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:34 AM
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15. Old news
Pretty popular theory for quite some time now. :boring:
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:59 AM
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16. Yes
And after Jesus' death, Joseph of Arimathea brought the Holy Grail to Glastonbury Tor to rest where Arthur, King of the Britains would build his Camelot and be anointed as the rightful ruler of the Christian World and place Britain as the divine Empire.
Nice how that all works out for them.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 10:40 AM
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17. ... Dr Strachan continues: "It is generally suggested that He came to the west of England with His
uncle, Joseph of Arimathea, who was here for tin". Dr Strachan says Christ probably came to Britain to meet the Druids ... http://ohlundonline.blogspot.com/2009/11/scottish-academic-christ-may-have.html

Actually, it was a mandatory field trip to Stonehenge for His architectural theory class
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 11:59 AM
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18. Rue Britannia!
Edited on Sun Nov-29-09 12:00 PM by onager
n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 12:15 PM
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19. Did he partake of the sacramental fish and chips?
Edited on Sun Nov-29-09 12:16 PM by MineralMan
Or the Spotted Dick?
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 11:03 PM
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21. If you like that,
you'll just love Anglo-Israelism.

Its current incarnation is mostly among hate groups. It wasn't thus for most of the idea's existence.

My least favorite task as a church employee was finding somebody to translate a Middle Alemannic chronicle text. It was way beyond me (I could probably wrangle it now, but I'm years older). I eventually found nobody to do it but did wind up finding a Church Latin translation in the Monumenta series. That I could get translated. It talked about how Abraham's travels included a sojourn in Austria, where he, naturally, had another family and was the forebear of the tribes in Austria.
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