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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 12:00 PM
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Dangerous Little Books Starts With The Bible



“God Hates You, Hate Him Back!” Says Controversial Author in A New Book That Pokes Fun At The Holy Scriptures

With people like Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens leading the way, more and more books discrediting the idea that a single sentient being created everything around us are being devoured by atheists tired of being labeled as un-godly and silenced legally, socially and culturally by the prevalent creationist systems lying behind the world’s most powerful (and arguably most violent) governments.

The problem with all these books, as the author sees it, is they have tried to apply logic to an illogical belief system. While this makes them popular with atheists (who mostly apply an evidence-based approach to their beliefs) they have had little to no effect whatsoever on the ‘believers’ who are taught that the value of their faith is in believing no matter what!

CJ Werleman, Australian-born author of “God Hates You, Hate Him Back” says, “Whenever you quote proven scientific evidence to refute the claims of believers of all kinds they invariably point to their holy book as counter-evidence. This circular-logic that sets the Bible as the only source of truth in their model of the world made me wonder how many people had actually bothered to really read this much-quoted book.”

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http://dangerouslittlebooks.com/press-release/dangerous-little-book-bible/
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 12:11 PM
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1. I read the bible cover to cover 3 times in my life.
At this point in my life, I am an agnostic. I do not accept the Bible's account of creation (ditto for other religous manuals). But, I won't deny that there is a possiblity that a god does exist somewhere.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 12:46 PM
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2. I am going to toast a bagel soon. I won't deny my toaster won't turn into a spinal cord
devouring water buffalo and attack me. I will be putting my shoes on in a few hours and I won't deny the possibility my shoes will bestow psychic powers to me, such as mind reading and telekinesis.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 12:50 PM
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3. Exactly.
Though you don't deny the possiblity, we both recognize that the quantum probability is quite low, and we don't live our lives expecing this stuff to happen.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 01:11 PM
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5. I won't deny the possibility you are just saying that to seduce me. nt
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 01:18 PM
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6. Nah, long distance relationships never work.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 01:03 PM
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4. Like all books of this type it will be preaching to the choir.
The people it's aimed at won't go near it.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 04:11 PM
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7. It's possible to download a sample chapter from the book's easily-found website. My quick
impressions:

This book is for people who enjoy lots and lots and lots of fairly standard and obvious snark based on a literal reading of the Bible. By "lots and lots and lots," I mean that, unlike the great classic writers in this vein (Russell, say, or Paine), Werleman entirely misses the point of the old slogan, Brevity is the soul of wit. And by "standard and obvious," I mean that most of you who went through a smart-ass phase in high school have already said much of this yourselves and could crank such stuff out by the truckload in your sleep



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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 05:12 PM
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8. You've heard me say this very thing often enough, I'm sure.
But if we can agree that religious belief is a delusion, one that can only been established and maintained based upon one's faith and one's ability to ignore the facts and reality. Or at least agree that these stories are a realistically impossible set of fantasy tales. Not to mention that we can prove that many of those tales are far older than either Christianity, Judaism or Islam, then on top everything else they not only didn't happen to their prophets of old the way they are told in their texts, but they've been stolen from the histories of others more ancient than their own. Then it follows that those who are willing to accept information as true, even in the absence of any evidence to support it, and in the face of this knowledge of their religion's phony pedigree, it at least suggests that someone has some sort of mental perception problems at the least. And sometimes those problems can border on stark. And raving. And mad (see Religious Fundamentalism, any kind will do). Those are the facts and the history.

And it's why I stopped debating (arguing) with religionists some time ago. Religionists believe that they NEED their religion. It's visceral and real to them, although they cannot always say exactly why. It has much to do with emotions and personal life-points (baptisms, christenings, weddings, meeting the first, second or third husband/wives, that sort of thing), that are unique and wonderful or terribly sad for them. And I can understand how that connection can happen. It doesn't alter the reality of it being a farce, but some people, like me, can move on once the scales of duplicity and deceit have fallen from their eyes. Others are only blinded by the new light, and will never be able to do so, because the very idea of moving on feels more like abandonment of the things they hold most dear.

Over the years, many of the things I've heard people say that they gain(ed) from religion, have never thought it is even possible that they could get those same feelings and benefits without the dogma in other ways. The connection they feel they need with "The Other." And while they may hate all of the religious prejudice they see, and the division that their religion's still perpetrates, they also refuse to see (or admit) that religions need to be able cull-out its own territory in this way. To divide up the sheep, as it were. But just as the religions aren't usually "directly" responsible for all the wars in our history (although in many of them they were the sole instigators), the lines they drew in the sands with blood long ago bought them license to condemn their detractors and enemies (at least they can't burn us at the stake anymore - without a fight), so they no longer require a direct hand to cause lesser conflicts anymore (see abortion issues and gay rights). Religion has become a holy cause in and of itself -- with or without a god. Which always makes talking religion with anyone anywhere a dicey prospect at best.

And even though I am not intentionally trying to be disrespectful of religionists (although I'll admit at this point that it ain't always easy not to - see I can confess too), many will take what I have said as an insult to their beliefs simply because they feel its fine for me not to believe what they believe, they'd just prefer that I stay quiet about it. Because no one likes to be reminded (particularly in a public forum) that what they believe in is a delusion. And I can understand that.

- But like I said before, it still doesn't alter the facts.

K&R




So apparently there ain't no Equal
Opportunity in heaven either."
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werley Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 09:14 AM
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9. Message from the Author
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 09:17 AM by werley
Hi All,

Thanks for the posts in regards to my book. 

Hope you get a chance to read it. It is a somewhat
light-hearted take on the Bible, examining all 66 chapters
with a somewhat comedic approach. 

Please feel free to review a sample chapter of my book at
www.GodHatesYou.net 

I welcome any feedback and will be sure to reply to any emails
at CJ@CJWerleman.com

Once again thank you for your interest, good or bad, and I
hope you do enjoy the read.

Peace.

CJ Werleman
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