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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 01:28 PM
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Serious Question for Christians
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 01:45 PM by Boojatta
If we didn't know that there are sincere racists, then we might guess that they're all insincere. How could ancestry and nothing more than ancestry be an adequate basis for hating an actual person? It seems unlikely that genealogical investigations of some particular person would be enough for a racist to fall in love and propose marriage. Consider misogyny and lust. One is hatred, but the other isn't love.

It seems to be easier to provoke hatred than love. If people apply their hatred to create suffering for others, then the sufferers might commiserate with each other. However, what is a way to go beyond commiseration and create love? Although creating love is more difficult than creating hatred, it shouldn't be impossible.

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John 13 (King James Version)

34 A new commandment I give unto you,
That ye love one another;
as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

35 By this shall all men know
that ye are my disciples,
if ye have love one to another.

36 And, behold, one of the disciples stood up, and spoke, saying,
Master, what should we do that we might love one another?

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Matthew 5 (King James Version)

43 Ye have heard that it hath been said,
Thou shalt love thy neighbor,
and hate thine enemy.

44 But I say unto you,
Love your enemies,
bless them that curse you,
do good to them that hate you,
and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children
of your Father which is in heaven:
for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil
and on the good,
and sendeth rain on the just
and on the unjust.

46 For if ye love them which love you,
what reward have ye?
do not even the publicans the same?

47 And if ye salute your brethren only,
what do ye more than others?
do not even the publicans so?

48 Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

49 And, behold, a certain strategist stood up, and spoke,
saying, Master, what should we do that we might love our enemies?

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You don't cure a case of insomnia by saying, "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye sleep all night and wake up refreshed."
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 01:32 PM
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1. verse 49 just proves that,
some people don't listen.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 01:34 PM
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2. I don't see any step-by-step reasoning in verse 49.
Perhaps you could describe a proof that you have in mind, a proof that I presume makes some reference to verse 49.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:44 PM
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4. just sayin'
that he turned right around and ask what was just told to them.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:02 PM
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5. Not exactly.
Consider an analogy. Some people are able to wiggle their ears, but others aren't. If you give the command "Wiggle your ears" to people who don't know how to wiggle their ears, then they might ask a simple question: "How?" In other words, what should they do that their ears might wiggle?

If the key solution to most problems were ear wiggling, and if people acknowledged that it's the solution, then there would still remain the problem of training people to wiggle their ears.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:17 PM
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3. 49???????????
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 02:18 PM by Sinti
Interesting, if the Christians followed their own religious text, rather than whatever the preacher of the week says, we'd have peace on earth - just because there are so many of them - peace is contagious.

edited for typo
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:28 PM
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6. Kick while it's still fresh
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 10:07 PM
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7. Recommended.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:26 PM
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8.  #49
there is no verse 49.Christ is telling us to love one another,knowing that some of us will fail,but try.
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