Religion deals with truths about the perfect, infinite, and intangible realm.

[Boojatta]

Atheists are merely students of religion. They may have extensive knowledge about the tangible and messy world, but should have no say in questions about religion.

Religious education and religious pedagogy are, of course, different from religion itself. When it comes to religious education and religious pedagogy, atheists can have a voice about what they think works for them. However, the basis for religious conclusions needs to be established by the experts. The highest expert at any given time is, of course, the Pope.

[darkstar3]

1. HAHAHAHAHAHA

:popcorn:

[MineralMan]

2. Most atheists I know came from a background of

religion. Many are students of religion. To say that they should have no say regarding religion is ridiculous. But, then, your opinion is of no more value than mine, so I'll just choose to ignore it and continue to discuss religion as I please.

Your final sentence would be heavily disputed by millions of Protestants, by the way. It is in no way a universal sentiment.

[BrklynLiberal]

3. The Pope?

i think there will be many who would disagree.

[MineralMan]

9. For Boojatta, I believe,

if it ain't Christianity in general, and Roman Catholicism in particular, it ain't religion at all.

You must understand that to understand anything Boojatta writes.

[BrklynLiberal]

11. Thanks for the clarification. I was totally dumbfounded.

[MineralMan]

13. Not surprising, since the OP was dumbfounded as well.

So I believe.

[BrklynLiberal]

16. lol

:rofl: :thumbsup:

[MineralMan]

17. By the way, your Eye of Horus is distracting me...

Hmph! It keeps following me around the room.

[BrklynLiberal]

18. Aha. Then it IS working! Thanks for letting me know.

:thumbsup:

[crim son]

4. You are messing with us, yes?

:eyes:

[MineralMan]

5. But of course. Or at least I think so. Or so it seems.

It's difficult to tell with Boojatta's postings, really. If Boojatta speaks in the wilderness, but nobody hears him, did he tell the truth?

The answer is the same as the sound of one hand clapping.

[crim son]

19. I guess I need to read up.

I know little of this *Boojatta*.

[Boojatta]

21. Here's something for you to read...

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Boojatta

You'll miss out if you don't read the Boojatta Journal Archives. Of course, you don't need to read it all in one day.

[crim son]

27. Added to favorites.

I'll read it slowly, and savor it.

[On the Road]

6. Believers in Religion

are also the ones who for some reason do not question the existence of such a thing as a "perfect, infinite, and intangible realm."

[MineralMan]

7. Let's break that down, shall we?

1. "Religion deals with truths..." In reality, it deals with mythology, social ethics, and explanations for things people didn't understand when the religion was formed.

2. "about the perfect..." Even the omnipotent deity of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam could not create a perfect universe. At every level, it is flawed and incorporates randomness.

3. "infinite," Infinity is a concept, not a reality. We like to think that we understand the concept, but we do not even know if such a thing exists at all. We can imagine that there is a never-ending sequence of numbers, but we cannot test it, since we are limited in our understanding.

4. "intangible realm." Again, if it is intangible, we cannot experience it. If we could experience it, it would destroy the definition of intangible. We can imagine that there exist intangible things, but we cannot demonstrate them in any way without destroying their intangibility. You may believe that there are "intangible realms," but they exist only in your imagination, as far as can be demonstrated.

Thank you for your attention.

[darkstar3]

8. +1

[MineralMan]

10. After I put away childish things, I spake to a child...

in terms the child could understand. Such are Boojatta threads.

[darkstar3]

12. .

:rofl:
That's probably the most entertaining co-opting of that verse I've read yet. I really did LOL.

[MineralMan]

15. Thank you kindly.

[flyingfysh]

14. "the perfect, infinite, and intangible realm"???

You string these words together. What exactly are you talking about? What kind of "realm" do you refer to? You are calling something in nature "perfect"? That sounds like ancient ideas that the sun and moon and other objects in the sky are "perfect". For religion, you are saying that the Pope is more of an expert than, say, the Dalai Lama?

The "tangible and messy world" is the only one for which we have any evidence at all.

[DeSwiss]

20. Everything you've said in the OP is complete and utter bullshit.

- And the Pope (this one in particular) is an asshole is a flaming asshole. (See - POPE: South American Indians http://www.counterpunch.org/jones05182007.html">"Wanted" To Be FORCIBLY Converted By The Conquistadors)


http://www.religioustolerance.org/nataspir.htm">

[BrklynLiberal]

22. Stop being such a wuss. Tell us what you REALLY think!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:thumbsup:

[philly_bob]

23. UNREC for many reasons. #1: There are atheists who belong to religions. n/t

[Lost-in-FL]

24. The words "religion" and "truth" do not belong in the same sentence. nt

[saltpoint]

25. Whoa, Boojatta. And that's an affirming 'Whoa.'

I like it that your posts generally and this one especiallyrequire industrial-strength concentration.

The current Pope is more of a scholar than other Popes, so I'm thinking there is an uneven component in your equation, but then again, maybe it's a built-in component.

Delightfully mind-blowing.

Recommended.

[edhopper]

26. I think your problem here Boojatta

is your post is completely comprehensible, as opposed to your usual offerings.
Being so easy to understand, the arguments put forth are easily dismissed.

[rd_kent]

28. Your headline is flawed....Religion and Truth = contradiction in terms

What "truth" is there in religion?