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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 09:10 AM
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Televangelist breached guidelines: ruling
Televangelist breached guidelines: ruling
Last Updated Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:00:44 EDT
http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2005/06/14/Arts/swaggart050614.html
CBC Arts

When televangelist Jimmy Swaggart said he would kill a homosexual who looked at him romantically, he violated the Canadian Association of Broadcasters' ethics code, an industry panel has ruled.

Swaggart made the remarks during a discussion of same-sex marriage on a Sept. 12 broadcast that was carried by the Toronto station Omni 1.

"I'm going to be blunt and plain: If one ever looks at me like that, I'm going to kill him and tell God he died," Swaggart said.
...
A few days later, Swaggart backtracked, saying the expression was a figurative one. He said he has used the expression "killing someone and telling God he died" in jest thousands of times.


You know, when you act upon a conviction based upon principals, you don't have to backtrack everytime you shoot off your mouth.



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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 09:16 AM
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1. Would this NOT be classified as "extremeist violence"
ie: the NEW definition of terrorism? I think it would. It's the same thing as Osama releasing a video saying he's going to kill Americans.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 09:22 AM
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4. Under the Patriot Act...
gay men would be considered the terrorists for antagonizing Swaggert to act violently. Only in America!
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 09:17 AM
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2. It IS a common southern expression, but I don't believe for a minute
that Swaggart meant it in jest. I'm sure he used that phrase as a convenient blind for his true intent, and I'm sure he thinks his backtracking covers his ass. It doesn't. His ass has been flapping in the breeze for years. You can't hide that kind of shit from God.
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 09:20 AM
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3. LOL.."if one ever looks at me like that.." He needn't flatter himself so.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 09:23 AM
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5. Queer Eye For The Swaggart Guy?
Edited on Wed Jun-15-05 09:24 AM by aden_nak
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 09:38 AM
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6. Brother Jimmy must have had the following pages excised from his Bible

Genesis 4
8 Now Cain said to his brother Abel, "Let's go out to the field." And while they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.

9 Then the LORD said to Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?"
"I don't know," he replied. "Am I my brother's keeper?"

Matthew 5
21"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.' 22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment."
. . .
43"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?"

Matthew 7
1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

(NIV translations)
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 11:29 AM
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9. Instead, he should have just said how he could understand
if somebody were to kill a gay man that looked at him romantically, and consider it justified.

That would have been ok, if I understand precedent correctly.

Bureaucrats.
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