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Jon_da_brockman Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:40 PM
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I was checking out FR
And I came across this thread regarding the Koran flushing pastor. As I was reading it, I almost started crying, the hatred of these people really hit me. I am not Islamic, not even Christian.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1409857/posts#comment?q=1

If is really sad that pure hatred such as this still exists in todays world.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:44 PM
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1. It's a physical condition
they have small penises

and are just trying to compensate

so sad
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 10:55 AM
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7. not all men with small penises are trying to compensate
that's just a nasty rumor

and how do you know how big penises are over at Freeperville?

:shrug:
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:50 PM
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2. Those people,and their glorious leader are the reason we are hated
world wide. It's the new face of America that was bestowed on us when the anti-Christ stole the Oval office.I hate to breathe the same air they breathe. Anything connected to those hate filled freaks is embarrassing for our country.Where is David Copperfield when you need him?
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:58 PM
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4. I have a friend who travels around the world.
I tell her, 'Please tell them that many of us care about the rest of the world, didn't want the Chimperor, and didn't want the war.'

She says, 'They know.'

That thread broke my heart too. I read it because someone posted it as an example of how messed up they were. They are hateful, and I would not want to be walking around with that inside me.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:58 PM
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3. Free Republic is an online looney bin
so of course you're going to find a lot of acting out there.

They're sick. Pity them.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 05:39 AM
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5. This is where the practice of forgiveness comes in
And this is a practice that is oftentimes not easy. In "A Course in Miracles" it is stated that there are only two things: Love and Fear. Hatred is a mask for fear, and knowing this can be a key for trying to understand people like this.

Perhaps what it is about fundamentalists is that they really don't understand life, and feel overwhelmed by it. So they work out some rules to protect themselves from the ever-changing chaos that is our reality. Perhaps this works for some; but the hatred displayed seems to me to indicate that they are even more afraid and feel even more lost from the Source.

To forgive these people is a process not only to help them from their attachments and delusions but also a way to let go of attachments of loathing or hatred you may harbor towards them. One can feel when attachments are gone, for there is a lightness in the heart. When illusion is gone, one lives in the Real, one feels Peace. If you've ever been there, even for an instant, you know that is where you want to remain. And it is such that you wish all others could be there as well.

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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 01:15 PM
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8. Great
As Yoda once said, "Fears leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 08:38 AM
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6. Hey, Jon_da_brockman! Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 01:16 PM
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9. CAIR
http://www.cair-net.org/explorethequran/request.asp

Either or both donate $25 to the campaign and/or get a free Koran. I ordered mine and will donate once I get a job (plus other worthy charities).

To the Muslims here, sorry about the hate. I find this just as bad as you do. These people flushed reason a long time ago and as a Deist, that really burns me up.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 04:19 PM
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10. To me, it seems to be bullying behavior by insecure/inadequate people.
It's sad, this piling on and figuratively beating other people up to feel good about oneself. I have to wonder if they actually physically bully, as well.
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tucoramirez2005 Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:33 PM
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11. The hatred of which people?
There has never been a catastrophe proportionate to 9/11 perpetrated against Muslims by Christians.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:29 PM
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12. So you're saying that 9/11 was perpetrated against Christians by Muslims?
nt
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tucoramirez2005 Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 04:18 PM
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13. Yes
The large majority of victims were Christian, and all of the murderers were Muslim.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:31 PM
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15. Wow, I never met anyone
here who believed the reichwing propaganda that this is a crusade.

Or did you come up with that all by yourself?
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 05:44 PM
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14. Never?
Never's a long time. I seem to remember an incident or two from history.

Regardless, almost every group has committed wrongs against some other group, what are we to just keep on doing it to each other.

<sarcasm>Yeah, that's fun and will solve a lot of problems. </sarcasm>
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 10:51 PM
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18. One might mention the crusades...
Where "Christians" commited even greater atrocities against not only Muslims, but also against Jews and fellow Christians.

WTC pales in comparison.

World history did not start with America, and will not end with America.

More recently we have 100,000 dead Iraqi's, mostly women and children who have been marytered due to the orders and lies of your "Christian" president.

In fact, his actions have already lead to the deaths of more than half that number of Americans killed in Iraq.

As far as I know, neither Islam or the teachings of Jesus (MABPWH) condone such "Christian" acts.

In fact, I as a Muslim consider the man and his actions Anti-Christian.

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catbert836 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:42 PM
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16. Look I found some sanity in that thread!
To: flutters
Rev. Lovelace probably got his license from Jim Billy Bob's Bible College and Auto Parts Store. Like so many of his ilk he would not know Jesus if he tripped over him. But I will say that these Revs do have nice hair.

To: plain talk
Jesus would never do or say anything resembling what Lovelace is saying. Maybe St. Peter or St. Paul Might have but not Jesus. True disciples do not mouth off like this so called preacher. Rather they crawl up on the cross, silently, like the master did. He should up and put up.

To: KingofQue
There were plenty of pantheistic religions around in Jesus' day, and He never went after any of them.
Rather, He took on those in His own Faith who were using their positions to take advantage of the people.
Like Lovelace here.

To: Blessed
You also know Jesus did not have a ministry to the Gentiles until after his crisifixion and was rejected by the Jews.
Jesus was God. He could have done whatever He wanted.
He focused on those of His own Faith, first.
Perhaps you think Christians have Christianity all fixed up and perfected, thus giving them the go-ahead to try and "fix" Islam by flushing the Koran down the toilet.

To: B.O. Plenty
It seems that he is brave.....or brash....or according to you, foolish enough to pubically say what millions of Americans think about the koran.
Most Americans don't think about the Koran at all. If they did, they'd likely have a live-and-let-live attitude about it, since a book is not threatening them in any way.

To: Libertarian444
I saw this guy interviewed on some news channel this p.m., and Creighton Lovelace is indeed a loveless cretin.
When asked if some folks felt tabout the Bible the way he feels about the Koran to be, he couldn't come up with anything better than (paraphrasing)"Yeah, but we're right and they're wrong."

I'm a big non-fan of Islam, but people like this "Reverend" give Christianity a very bad name. Expect to see this jerk-stain all over the MSM soon.

Finally some of them are waking up and smelling the coffee.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:24 AM
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17. These are just a bunch of hateful, xenophobic people with small minds
They can't see any other viewpoint but their own. They can't concieve of any other truth but their own. If a foreign idea encroaches upon their turf they raise their hackles like a frightened animal, bare their fangs and prepare to attack.

Better for all that they just isolate themselves on an island with a huge wall and let everyone else be...

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shawn703 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:16 PM
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19. Did you shower before coming here? n/t
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