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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 04:43 PM Original message |
People burned to death by God |
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loveable liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. It occurred to me that you need nerve's and a brain to feel pain... |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. IMHO, the Bible reflects the attempt of people 2000 years ago to |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. A rather unconvincing line of attack, I'm afraid. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. That's what Revelation is for? n/t |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Let's start with the first book of the new testament... Matthew.... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Yep. Fundamentalists see a God with both infinite mercy and punishment. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. The fire refers to hell, though. |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Curious though, that the Christian scriptures carry no account.... |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. You mean Jesus never personally set anyone on fire? Just supposedly delegated it the next generation |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. No, you misunderstand. I was questioning the veneration... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. But you see, Jesus never explicitly rejected Old Testament law, except when demonstrating |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Why, on Earth, not? |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:05 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. I don't find either god nor Jesus worthy of worship, even if all written about them were true. n/t |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Interesting. I don't believe/disbelieve in god.... as one can't know what one can't know. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. "He's unworthy of *worship* because we don't profitably relate to other humans with "worship"." |
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The Night Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. I find Jesus Christ to be unworthy of worship precisely because of what is written about him. {EOM} |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. Don't forget John Calvin's festive 1553 barbecue. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Perhaps that fact merely means certain self-righteous jackasses were in control |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
9. The Answer Depends Not Necessarily on Whether You are a Bible Believer |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
10. Like Lewis Black says |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Never hear that Lewis Blackism |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. It is paraphrased... |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
12. I'm against capital punishment, and it's because of my Christian faith. |
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heidler1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. I'm against capital punishment because as a Atheist I believe that I am Earth bound. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. That makes a lot of sense. |
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heidler1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Part of my thinking on this is yes some people deserve to die, but |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #12 |
27. I'm an atheist, and I'm against it because it's wrong |
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The Night Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. The Christian concept of eternal punishment in the afterlife precludes Christians from... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
15. If you are concerned about people being burned, there are many |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. No, we'd much rather just feign outrage over allegory. |
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