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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 08:40 PM
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Schiavo: Where is their faith?
Here's what disturbs me, and I AM A CHRISTIAN: As a Christian, I believe there's something better on the other side. St. Paul said, "For me to live is Christ, to die is gain." So WHY WHY WHY are the fundies dead set on keeping this poor woman from going on to her reward, to be with Jesus? Don't they BELIEVE what they preach?

If it was me, and if I believed that my soul was somehow chained to a breathing lump of flesh being kept alive by a feeding tube when there's no brain there ... I'd say (and HAVE SAID) PLEASE LET ME GO!!

These people claim to be Christians, but they want to keep Schiavo chained to that body. Don't they believe there is a Heaven? Don't they believe that Jesus is waiting on the other side with open arms?

I do. If it were me, LET ME GO. "... to die is gain."

Where's their faith? If Tweety had a brain, he'd have asked Pastor What's His Name that.

Bake

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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 08:42 PM
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1. We all prayed that my mom would die. She did too. We couldn't bear
her suffering. She was such a good person, everyone loved her.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 08:44 PM
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3. Bless your mom and your family.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 08:44 PM
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2. their faith is fear based so there is no love or hope in them. They
watch the end come with fear and loathing because any hope in eternal life for them is lost in their cold hearted evil.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 08:46 PM
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4. I've been wondering the same thing...
why keep her locked inside a broken body when she could be with God? If I was in the same state, I would want somebody to make the decision to let me go.
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 08:49 PM
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5. Do you think maybe it's because they believe that Terri, a Catholic,
has not personally accepted Christ as her saviour and is therefore unsaved and doomed to hell? As a Christian, I agree completely that for me to die is gain, but if someone has not made that step, been born again, to die is not gain but eternal separation from God. I have a friend who's a Catholic priest and we disagree on this point, so I would think Catholics would be willing to let Terri go if she has received the last rites. Maybe I don't understand this as well as I think. My faith is firm, based on my beliefs, but sometimes I get confused about others' take on such theological issues. Does this make any sense to you?

Blessings.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 11:34 PM
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9. Assuming your a sane Evangelical
They love to through born again around. It makes sense to a Catholic that Last Rites would clear it all up and easy street to Heaven. To an Evangelical, none acceptance of Jesus as savior and joining a church would gain an easy street to Heaven.

I think she's bound for reincarnation.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 08:53 PM
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6. Death and Christianity
When you promise people heaven after they die you need to set up strong constraints against death. Otherwise your entire congregation will be dead in a fortnight. To this end Christianity has a very strong condemnation of any sort of unnatural death for its people.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 09:43 PM
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7. Thanks for your responses.
But why are they so afraid to let Terri go? She's been gone for a long time, it seems to me. If it were me, honest to God, I'd say why are you people fighting over this -- I WANT TO GO!

As a Christian, I think we (i.e., Christians) have a duty to make this world better for our having been here. So we do that, and when it's time to go, there's nothing to be afraid of. I'm not going to court death, much less kill myself, just because I believe there's something better "over there." Not at all. I'll fight to live as long as I can. But when it's over, it's over.

As for the "Catholic" thing -- I'm not so arrogant as to presume that nobody's got the truth but me. The family actually argued that for Terri to be allowed to die would somehow damn her eternal soul (in a CIVIL COURT OF LAW!!) -- that's just an abomination if there ever was one. That's not the God I believe in.

Bake
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 11:26 PM
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8. That's sick
"The family actually argued that for Terri to be allowed to die would somehow damn her eternal soul (in a CIVIL COURT OF LAW!!) -- that's just an abomination if there ever was one. That's not the God I believe in."

I believe that God is bigger than any one religion, and therefore, I cannot believe that he would condemn to hell someone who didn't believe according to a certain formula.

In any case, I don't know of any religion that says you'll go to hell for something that other people do TO you. :crazy:
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 11:37 PM
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10. Crazy fundies
To me, all religions say the samething but people ignore it and do harm constantly. It's this message we can't understand: play well with others. Buddha taught it, Jesus taught it, Moses taught it, etc. We don't understand it at all. This leads to conflicts in times like this. No one understands that NO ONE knows what is on the other side of death. If she wants to go, fine. Her choice to leave the madness. But to deny her that choice based on a dead guy's aproval of your soul is insanity.
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