An online book debunking the "great modern spiritual masters"

[More Than A Feeling]

http://www.strippingthegurus.com/

We don't see a lot of non-Christian questioning, so here is some (It does include the Catholic Church, however). Scary stuff, the things the profiled people try to sell under the guise of spiritual accomplishment.

[cosmik debris]

1. Thanks

I only skimmed a few chapters, but I found it interesting. I will go back and read it more comprehensively later. I really would like to verify some of his claims, but if he is right it will not be too big a surprise.

[trotsky]

2. Interesting stuff.

Not surprising, but very interesting to see such details. Far too many people get disillusioned with mainstream religion, and then turn to this bunkum to be swindled.

[bryant69]

3. It is interesting

An inspired touch for the author to comment on the Dalai Lama. On the other hand the conclusion is pretty smug. Not as bad as it would be if it had been written by a evangalist I suppose, but still pretty smug.

Bryant
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[cosmik debris]

4. It is quite humorous too

Especially the parts about sex, violence, and Steven Seagal!

[bryant69]

5. Well yes - particularly if you are the sort of person

who finds pleasure in mocking others to assert your own intellectual superiority.

Bryant

[cosmik debris]

6. Nuns just wanna have fun.--Just dirty fun--no superiority

By contrast, though in line with the teachings of his own more conservative lineage, the current Dalai Lama obeys and enforces well-defined limits on the “pleasures of the flesh”:

His adamant stand on sexual morality is close to that of Pope John Paul II, a fact which his Western followers tend to find embarrassing, and prefer to ignore. The Dalai Lama’s U.S. publisher even asked him to remove the injunctions against homosexuality from his <1999> book Ethics for the New Millennium, for fear that they would offend American readers, and the Dalai Lama acquiesced (French, 2003).
Expounding further on such restrictions, the Lama (in P. Harvey, 2000) has said:

Sexual misconduct for men and women consists of oral and anal sex.... Even with your wife, using one’s mouth or other hole is sexual misconduct.
As for when sexual intercourse takes place, if it is during the day it is also held to be a form of misconduct (Lama, 1996).
Thankfully, some “fun” is still allowed, albeit not during daylight hours:

To have sexual relations with a prostitute paid by you and not by a third person does not, on the other hand, constitute improper behavior (Lama, 1996).
Interesting. Yet still, speaking of “the other hand”:

Using one’s hand, that is sexual misconduct (the Dalai Lama, in ).
Masturbation ... includes emitting semen on another person, a monk getting a novice to masturbate him, or himself masturbating a sleeping novice, which could be seen to include homosexual acts. It is a lesser offence, of expiation , for nuns “tormented with dissatisfaction” to slap each other’s genitals with their palms or any object, with the slapper “enjoying the contact” (P. Harvey, 2000).
“Nuns just wanna have fun.”

If you managed to read the above quote without cracking a smile, you are one dour individual!