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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:09 PM
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Wahhabi Christianity
How about we stop using the term "Christian Right" and instead call the Jerry Falwell crowd "Wahhabi Christians"? They've given Christianity a bad name. Their political support for Bush makes them similar to the ulama that back the House of Saud in exchange for it's promotion of their extreme version of Islam, Wahhabism.

Now this term wouldn't endear us to the Christian Wrong, as Randi Rhodes calls them, but it is more accurate than referring to them simply as Christians and painting an entire religion with a broad brush.


Saudi ulama: http://countrystudies.us/saudi-arabia/54.htm
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:17 PM
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1. Isn't it insulting to Muslims?
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:20 PM
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2. hmm, I don't think so
I suppose it might be insulting to Wahhabis, but it seems to me there is a good deal of similarity between Christian and Islamic fundamentalism. Wahhabism is one sect of Islam, just as the fundamentalists are a particular segment of Christianity that are far from typical.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:23 PM
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4. So why not just call them Xian Fundamentalists?
Wouldn't that be simpler than dragging another religion into it?
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:28 PM
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5. I thought the extremist parallel was useful
The Wahhabis do preach hatred of Westerners and carry out instruction in jihad. Also, it's a term most people know.
At any rate, it was just an idea.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 06:53 PM
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9. I'm debating between the 'radical religious right' and
'the religious HARDright.'

Preferences between the two?
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 08:37 AM
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10. Radical Religious Right is alliterative
And alliteration is always a goal.

:)
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:47 AM
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13. Yep.
I like calling them 'RRR-ers,' or something.

We have to thing of something clever.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:32 PM
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6. To bad we could not just give all the right wing nuts a country.
Let them all fight it out as they are all sure they are right and they all have the only right God. Maybe the South Pole.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:09 AM
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11. they want South Carolina
I say let them have it

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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:39 AM
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12. Everything but Charleston
Just tack Charleston onto Georgia or something and let them keep the rest of the state.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:49 AM
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14. Amen.
Let 'em tack Charleston onto Georgia. And I do agree - let 'em have the rest of South Carolina. Objections anyone?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 06:40 PM
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8. There are many similarities between
liberal Muslims (I'm thinking Sufis here) and certain liberal sects of Christianity-Unity and Unitarian/Universalist.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 06:38 PM
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7. Not to me
a hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said something to the effect that the worst threat to Islam would come from within-I've even heard that the area where Wahhabism started was mentioned, but I can't be sure of that.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:21 PM
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3. A good idea, but...
...I'd prefer "Talibornagain."

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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:58 PM
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15. What is Wahhabism?
Does it differ from "Orthodox" Islam?

An interesting link for those seeking answers about what "Wahhabism" / Salafism is and is not.

http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/index.htm

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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:23 PM
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16. in Saudi Arabia, they refer to themselves as Wahhabis
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 02:31 PM by imenja
the name deriving from the holy man Muhammad ibn Abd al Wahhab. I'm comfortable using their own definition of the sect.
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