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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 12:44 AM
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Mackenzie Phillips: I had sex with musician dad John Phillips
Source: CNN

(CNN) -- Actress Mackenzie Phillips reveals she had a long-term incestuous relationship with her famous father, musician John Philips, in a tell-all memoir, according to People.com, which obtained an advance copy of her book.

Actress Mackenzie Phillips reportedly reveals a family secret to Oprah Winfrey.

Phillips, the 49-year-old former child star and daughter of the Mamas and the Papas founder John Phillips, says she had sex with her father the night before she was to marry Jeff Sessler, a member of the Rolling Stones entourage, in 1979, according to People.com.

"On the eve of my wedding, my father showed up, determined to stop it," writes Phillips, who was 19 at the time and a heavy drug user, according to People.com. "I had tons of pills, and Dad had tons of everything too. Eventually I passed out on Dad's bed."

Phillips, best known as Julie Cooper on the sitcom "One Day at a Time," says the sexual relationship became consensual as her life began to spiral out of control.



Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/22/mackenzie.phillips.oprah/index.html
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 12:49 AM
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1. Ew.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 12:50 AM
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2. Too much information . EWWW
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 12:57 AM
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3. Kicking to see how many DUers will slime her.
I see a couple have already appeared.
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Onceuponalife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 01:05 AM
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5. Yeah, she's the victim
I love John's music, but this is sick. His drug use and bad parenting ruined his son Jeff's life and look at how messed up Mackenzie is. Reportedly she also had sex with Mick Jagger while underage. This is probably something that didn't need to be revealed, though.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:17 PM
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47. the numbers have added up....
...look downnthread.

:eyes::puke:

i guess i should take some small comfort, in how predictable some on this board are. but oddly, i don't. it just makes me angry (and sad).
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:18 PM
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48. The thread in the Lounge on this isn't too pretty either.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:23 PM
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49. thanks for the warning, forkboy...
thankfully, i don't hang out or post in the lounge.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 12:59 AM
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4. We don't really need this here, at DU, do we?
Sorry
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:38 PM
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41. Why not? Incest is an important issue for many people. nt
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 01:05 AM
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6. How sad.
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:04 AM
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16. extremely n/t
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 01:07 AM
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7. excuse me, but i did not need to hear that
jeez - boundaries, people! :eyes:
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 01:25 AM
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8. But maybe some people do need to hear that they are not alone.
Edited on Wed Sep-23-09 01:53 AM by Hello_Kitty
If MacKenzie Phillips was violated by her father, she's not the only person that's happened to. Maybe her story will help someone else to recover. You don't have to read it if you don't want to.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 01:35 AM
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10. I agree with you. Admitting it happened helps not
only her but probably a lot of others too. It helps to know you are not alone.
With regards to not needing this at DU, I'm not sure what you mean by that. Incest isn't a pretty topic. But it's real and happens. Why shouldn't we discuss it?
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 01:26 AM
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9. When it comes to making the bestseller lists, there are no boundaries...
Edited on Wed Sep-23-09 01:27 AM by regnaD kciN
Not saying whether her story is true or false, but, for a former star (now pretty much forgotten) to make it past the Bill O'Reillys and Michelle Malkins onto the non-fiction Top 25, you've got to come up with something more salacious than "I used lots of drugs and led an out-of-control life" -- witness "Marcia Brady"'s autobiography a couple of years ago where she admitted to trading sex for cocaine.

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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 01:50 AM
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11. I'm sure I'd rather never hear about a lot of my favorite rockers'.....
intimate lives. Especially David Byrne's..........
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Pretty_in_CodePink Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 07:20 AM
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23. Why especially David Byrne's? n/t
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:53 AM
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32. Serial
Philanderer is what I've heard.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:18 PM
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39. 'Cause he's so damn weird.
It really wouldn't surprise me to hear he shagged wombats.
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Ivan the So-So Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 03:06 AM
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12. Sounds like someone's in need of some money
And is trying to get it by hawking a book! Hey, Oprah, remember A Million Little Pieces???
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 03:59 PM
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54. this reads like...
...someone needs to pull their head out of their proverbial ass, and buy a clue about child abuse. :eyes:
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 03:18 AM
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13. how sad - this is what drugs do.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:20 AM
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28. If those drugs had been legal....
Then American's puritanical attitude toward incest might change. :eyes:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 03:43 AM
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14. Sigh. She always looked terribly troubled on One Day At A Time.
Sigh.
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vincenzoesq Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:01 AM
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15. Mackenzie

How many more girls--and boys are being victimized by parents or caretakers? For every one we learn about, there are scores who live with
their secrets. Very sad indeed, and very scary.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 05:48 AM
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17. Mackenzie has always been very damaged...
Her father is dead, so her story is the only one we will hear. Maybe it is true or simply the results of drug abuse haze... But, I can not, for the life of me understand how revealing this beyond her supportive circle of family and friends can be helpful at all. Yet, there are psychologists who would support such a very public airing to countless millions of strangers--of such horror. I just don't see how that is helpful at all to Mackenzie or to anyone....:shrug:
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dugaresa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 06:25 AM
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18. perhaps it helps her? I have to give her credit though, a lot of people
demonize the poor and the underprivileged as those people with all the problems. But in reality poor or rich, educated or uneducated families are messed up and some far more messed up than others.

Between the drug use and now this incest charge, it is amazing she didn't end her life given the baggage she has carried around.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 07:08 AM
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21. What if it isn't true? She would not be the first severely drug-
addicted to cast a tail to explain their years of reckless behavior. I hope for her own sake that if she is making these explosive charges against a famous father no longer able to counter the story, that it is true or years later, I would think the guilt would consume her.

I'll be interested to see if Michelle Phillips weighs in. John may have bee the ultimate creep and this may be true, but I have to think McKenzie could help herself more by discussing, even publicly, in a less sensationalized way.
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 02:45 PM
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35. Chynna Phillips has weighed in
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/chynna-phillips-2009239

"And in the new issue of Us Weekly (on newsstands now), her half-sister Chynna Phillips of the hit 90s group Wilson Phillips shares her side of the sad story. Chynna, 41, tells Us Weekly she remembers getting the call from Mackenzie, 49, in 1997 — 11 years after the affair had ended — while she was between flights at LaGuardia Airport in New York City. "She said, 'I don't know why, but I just really felt the need to call you and tell you something that I think you need to know,'" Chynna tells Us Weekly. "And she went on to tell me that she had had an incestuous relationship with our dad for about 10 years." Somebody could have dropped a piano on my head and I probably wouldn't have felt it," the singer tells Us Weekly. "But I knew it was true. I mean, who in their right mind would make such a claim if it wasn't true?" She says the news sent her into "a deep, deep sadness and depression for about 10 days. A part of me died when I found out."

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dugaresa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 03:01 PM
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36. the fact that Chynna believes the story means she knew enough about her dad
to believe that he was capable of it.

He may have never touched her but he may have given off that vibe that told her that "dad is a creepy bastard"
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:12 PM
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38. Well a lot of people (messed up people) would make that claim if it
wasn't true. I know one of them.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:13 PM
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46. wait....what?
Edited on Wed Sep-23-09 11:27 PM by bliss_eternal
...if it isn't true? how dare you, question the word of an obviously victimized individual who has nothing to gain, but the freedom (and peace) that is offered by relieving oneself of horrible memories, that have been haunting her for decades.

this kind of questioning the victim crap, sickens me.

molestation apologism on du. how nice.
:eyes:

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:33 PM
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50. what part of the years of drug use....
Edited on Wed Sep-23-09 11:56 PM by bliss_eternal
wasn't intent on ending her life? :shrug:

whether spoken or not, that's generally what she wat trying to do (end her life). no one does that many drugs unless they have a death wish and some severe issues they are attempting to suppress.

who wouldn't rather be high (or dead), than to deal with the reality that your father is a creepy pederast, intent on a relationship with you? and is also the asshole that introduced you to drugs?

:grr::mad:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:06 PM
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43. have you been assaulted...?
raped? molested? perhaps this is why you "don't see". if it doesn't affect you, i guess one can't understand the need for the information to come out and possibly help others that have experienced such a thing.

:eyes:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:42 PM
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51. i take it you're interested...
Edited on Wed Sep-23-09 11:48 PM by bliss_eternal
in what the pedophile, drug-addicted, egotistical, neglectful, piece of shit would have to say about this. how very noble of you. :eyes:

short of, "i'm so sorry i did this to my daughter. i do NOT deserve to live or breath, among decent human beings" and, "please, send me to jail for the rest of my life..." there's nothing the pederast piece of shit could say, (if still alive) that i'd be remotely interested in hearing.

Or perhaps,"........aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuuuuuugggh!" during the castration.

...but that's just me. :)
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 06:28 AM
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19. is this a "recovered memory"?
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:06 PM
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44. .................
:eyes:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 06:30 AM
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20. Schneider probably would have found that interesting
Edited on Wed Sep-23-09 06:30 AM by Freddie Stubbs
































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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 07:14 AM
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22. He was incredibly talented, but a real scumbag of a human being
I believe her story.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 07:50 AM
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24. Ugh.
:(
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 07:53 AM
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25. Gross. Did not need to know.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:10 AM
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26. Sad story. The lives of celebrities are too often
ugly on the personal level. The only way this story is a good thing is if it exposes parental incest as a real problem, which it certainly is.
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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:18 AM
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27. It's very brave of her to talk about this publicly
I don't think I would have that kind of courage if it had happened to me. Makes me very thankful for the parents I have (imperfect though they may be).
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:08 PM
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45. yes, it is.
Edited on Wed Sep-23-09 11:09 PM by bliss_eternal
i agree, it is brave. especially in the face of so many trashing her as speaking out to aid "book sales" or "speaking ill of the dead." :eyes:

dude lost any rights to dignity in death, the day he made the choice to molest her.
:grr::mad:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 09:19 AM
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29. I've always felt bad for her. It's clear even before this revelation that she had gone through a lot
Hope she can find some kind of peace.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 10:24 AM
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30. John Phillips is right up there with Michael Jackson's dad. nt
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 10:43 AM
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31. Ug! Worst I have read from a celeb!
This is info that would be best kept between she and her therapist esp since the man is dead and couldn't dispute this if he wanted, or had reason to!

YUCK

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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 12:50 PM
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33. Confession time with Oprah
She is the great healer of celebrity maladies.
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 02:38 PM
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34. This is horrible! No wonder Mackenzie is so messed up.
What a sick fucking bastard her father was.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 03:11 PM
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37. That's just sad all around
:(
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:24 PM
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40. Freakin' yikes.
Glad she's gotten into recovery...
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 10:46 PM
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42. this was actually 'revealed' years ago...
..I remember reading about it a while back somewhere, along with her drug use. I feel sorry for her, mostly - and a little creeped out by what happened to her. Ick.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 01:27 AM
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52. not surprised - that band was full of vile human beings
from everything i've read
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 01:54 AM
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53. TMI! TMI!
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gk88850 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 07:16 PM
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55. Just sick
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