What's your local paper reporting on election fraud?

[witchhazl]

Maybe we could get an idea of what progress (or lack thereof) is being made around the country.

I'm in Pittsburgh. The main paper is the Post-Gazette, and it has hardly mentioned election fraud. When it has, it was dismissive. One general editorial (Nov 19): "Bush won: Out-of-luck conspiracy theorists should face facts" http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04324/414067.stm

That editorial acknowledges they've received many emails & letters (mine included), but as far as I've seen, they've published only one.
Today they published a rebuttal to it:
"In response to Donald Grbac's Nov. 24 letter, "Legitimate Questions": I would like to know exactly what questions he has concerning the election? Don't you think the Post Gazette, being the very biased paper that it is, would be asking questions if there were any? Of course." *Emphasis added.)

So we're not doing well with the media blackout in Pittsburgh.

[whistle]

1. Orlando Slantinel thinks Bush has won a landslide victory fairly

[Patsy Stone]

2. Hometown paper is the Miami Herald

So, that's where I am.

[marions ghost]

20. Anything there?

I would have thought the Miami Herald would have something??
If you see any articles, let us know or zap it to us....

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The Boston Globe printed an article by Yale Law Professor Ian Solomon on Nov 28. In it Solomon says "The legitimacy of our democratic process is an issue more important than Mr. Kerry's future or the results of 2004." Then he goes on to list a lot of the evidence from around the country.

This article can be found in this DU forum, near the top with the heading
"Dean at Yale Law says: Validate the Vote."

[marions ghost]

21. Made a mistake there, sorry

The article by Solomon was in the Baltimore Sun (not Boston Globe).

[Atman]

3. Both sides of the story

But not in a GOOD way.

In Hartford, the Tribune Media Company publishes the mainstream daily "Hartford Courant," a heavily republican rag that endorsed Bush, and places any negative stories about him on page 37Q. They don't cover the vote fraud issue AT ALL, unless it is a brief paragraph about it being nonsense. BUT...Tribune also publishes the only "alternative" news and arts weekly, "The Advocate." Not the gay one, this one is chain of 6 or 7 regionals that cover from NY border into Vermont. Well, anyway, the Advocate ran the vote fraud issue as a cover story this past week. Laid out the whole mess. A good, solid piece of journalism.

Funny though...the same company that published that cover story didn't consider that same information to be newsworthy enough for its mainstream daily.

Funny, my ass.

[witchhazl]

4. But do they report anything on election fraud specifically?

Is anybody even cracking the door open a bit?

I'd say Pittsburgh Post-Gazette very reluctantly cracked it open by even printing a dismissive editorial. By admitting questions were being asked. And then one letter to the editor. But they're trying to shut it again.

[texpatriot2004]

5. Kick

[IAMREALITY]

6. My local paper

Is reporting that there is township sponsored get together on broadway in Denville this weekend, where you can enjoy hot apple cider.....

....oh, wait, that doesn't have to do with the Election does it...Hmmmmm.....Guess then they aren't reporting fucking anything!

:)

[Verve]

7. Reporters looking at 17000 Florida ballots that accurately give Bush a win

Milwaukee Journal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=201&topic_id=5849&mesg_id=5849

[trudyco]

28. Interesting thing was what the newspaper title didn't say

There is a thread about this from this morning. Sorry I don't have the url. The interesting thing was that Bush LOST votes in the recount and Kerry gained some votes. ALso there were FEWER votes in the hand recount then in the official total! Like how could that happen? It was only 5, but still. The total number Bush gained (in the official count versus the hand recount) to Kerry in 2 of the counties they completely counted was 37. They didn't say the exact number nor did they do all of the precincts of the third county.

As someone pointed out, why is it that all of these glitches or foibles or irregularities hurt Kerry and never Bush?

Hmmmmmm.

[stella2cat]

8. Monterey Herald (CA) has 19 fraud articles in the last 7 days, 18 Ukraine

and 1 (count 'em!) re GAO investigation. I'll check the Santa Cruz papers, probably more there

[texpatriot2004]

9. kick

[texpatriot2004]

10. kick

[TalkingDog]

11. WCNC: Charlotte NC

http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/stories/wcnc-112404-al-gaston_elections.8b5b30e1.html

So you won't have to register:
Nov. 24th

GASTONIA, N.C. -- Gaston County Elections Director Sandra Page is taking a medical leave of absence until at least the start of the new year.

Page has been struggling to answer a growing list of questions about her management of the elections office.

The announcement came after Page walked out of an interview with Don Wright, general counsel of the state Board of Elections, who opened an investigation Monday into problems with the county's handling of the November second election.

On Tuesday, Wright asked why Page violated a direct order by opening several e-mails on her computer on Monday.

Page said she was "not trying to hide anything" and that she was making what she called "stupid mistakes."

Page left the interview and went to her private office. After she remained inside with her personal attorney for almost 30 minutes, she walked to her car and drove away. The lawyer said afterward that Page was headed to a doctor's appointment.

Nov. 23

GASTONIA -- An attorney for the state Board of Elections said uncounted votes and votes counted twice during the election in Gaston County is a mess the board is determined to get to the bottom of and find out what went wrong.

Investigators with the state Board of Elections were inside a Gaston County office all day Monday. They began their work of sorting through several mistakes, which the director of the office cannot fully explain as her work of certifying election results is under fire.

>snip

“There should be an answer to everything, but as to whether we can find an answer or whether it's possible, that's one of the elements that we would have to study,” said investigator Don Wright.

Wright and other investigators want to know why Gaston County did not include more than 13,000 votes in its initial tally. They also want to know why 29 precincts did not have the same number of votes as voters and why a state ordered recount came up with 75 more votes than originally counted.

“They had no idea that all of these problems had occurred until well after the election,” said The Charlotte Observer reporter Benyamin Applebaum.

The Observer was the first to discover a problem at more than half of Gaston County’s 46 precincts. Applebaum pointed the errors out to Page.

“I just keep saying why didn't I see that? I mean I'm just astounded with myself that I did not notice that,” Page said.

State investigators are asking the same questions. No one is saying how long it will be before the answers are revealed.

[peekaloo]

14. interesting

send that one to Olbermann.

Is Gaston near Craven County?

[marions ghost]

16. No, they are not near

Craven Co. and Carteret Co. are adjacent to each other on the SE coast of NC.

Gaston County is towards the western part of the state, right next to Mecklenburg Co, which contains Charlotte, the largest city in NC.

There are also voting issues in Guilford Co. in the middle of the state, the county that contains the sizeable city of
Greensboro.

The Charlotte Observer is the best place to find reports within the state on the voting problems.

[peekaloo]

17. Thank you and Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[SmokingJacket]

12. My Gannett paper: zippo. n/t

[Twist_U_Up]

13. Syracuse,NY

Post Standard = zilch

[newyawker99]

23. Hi Twist_U_Up!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Twist_U_Up]

26. tyvm

I have to say I'm hooked already this is an awesome site.

I have been stuck in the national forums in our local area blog,needless to say, there is no reasoning with those bush loons.

After spending a few days here I now know where I belong.
Thanks for the hello,nice to see a welcome response instead of a "hey theres the loser"

[googly]

15. Portland,OR paper Oregonian: Zero, Zip, Nada about Fraud

In fact there is a column by Matthew Miller of the Center for American Progress condemning Kerry for not returning the leftover cash of $15 M
million or so which Kerry is hoarding. And CAP is a progressive outfit!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

19. I found something in the Oregonian Live! site

2 on ukraine, the rest - letters to the editors

[Radio_Lady]

29. Oregonian's Margie Boule wrote an article on voting problems...

From http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/margie_boule/

'Lowdown tricks' sap poll-watcher's faith in fair U.S. voting

Tuesday, November 23, 2004

"America: land of the free. If we were taught anything as young Americans, we learned that in this nation we are free to live where we wish, express our opinion, worship in any faith we choose and vote for whomever we wish.

Portlander Tina Knight spent 20 years working for high-tech firms in Europe. Traveling for work and pleasure, she often found herself in conversations about the United States. "One of the things people admired was the free elections," she says.

But when Tina returned in 2000 to live in America, she was concerned about allegations of election tampering. A patriotic American, Tina had trouble believing widespread voter fraud could occur in this country. But after acting as a nonpartisan observer Nov. 2 this time around at a precinct in Florida, she says she's lost faith in the system. In nine hours Tina says she saw "lowdown tricks" that have made her feel "disgusted, angry -- and yes, energized." That's why she wants her story told..."

(Check link above for rest of story. I emailed to thank Margie, and then sent the article along to some other media friends.)

[googly]

31. FLorida Vote review by a Florida newspaper

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FLORIDA_VOTING?SITE=NYSTA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

[marions ghost]

18. Really good idea

I think we need to post articles from local papers nationwide--to get an overview of who's covering anything about voting "irregularities" or investigations. (Newspapers aren't going to use the libelous word fraud at this point).

Writing some genuinely concerned--but not inflammatory--letters to the editors of our own local papers is probably one of the most important things to do. Don't be upset if the editor doesn't publish yours--they still read them and they DO evaluate them. Often they will print only one on a topic, but even one is effective.

Suggest: Make them as clear and short as possible. Use specific references where you can. Ask questions but do not criticize or make demands--it is guaranteed kiss of death to approach an editor that way. (I deal with editors a lot--they respond to old-fashioned forms of courtesy. It's a tough business. They have a thick skin).

We DO need to let editors know that we WANT coverage on this issue.

[OhioChick]

22. Cleveland Plain Dealer.....

Not a word.....

[boi1946]

24. Nothing...nada...zilch.

I only subscribe to our Daily News to find out what the City Council's up to, when local events are going to happen, and the Cryptoquote.

[blueatheart]

25. nothing here

Im in infamous Duval County Fl. Local news station said just other day "no problems reported in Fl 2004 election" . I have been writing to local paper & news stations course not going to see any changes.

A very close friend saw a poll worker stuffing like 50 ballots into the opt. scanner. He's in different precinct than me. Only odd thing I saw was that this is a high african american area, about 60%, and I saw only 1 african american voter at the polls. They moved the polling place, last time it was intown this year it was few miles out of town, into more rural area. No bus route to new polling place and lot of people in this area rely on public transit.

[pinkpops]

27. "Faulty Exit Polls Still Puzzle Experts" Austin American Statesman

This was the headline to what was supposed to be a news (i.e. not OPED) story. Sure reads like an opinion to me.

[Sammi]

30. Review finds Fla. counties voted for Bush

November 28, 2004

MIAMI -- A newspaper's review of ballots cast in three north Florida counties where registered Democrats heavily outnumber Republicans showed just what officials reported: The counties' voters did on Election Day as they often do, voting for a Republican for president.

The Miami Herald review goes against Internet-fed rumors questioning whether there was a conspiracy against Sen. John Kerry in those counties.

Kerry won in much of South Florida, where voters vote on touch-screen machines that can't be checked.

Reporters for the newspaper went over more than 17,000 optical scan ballots cast in three rural counties mentioned by doubters: Suwannee, Lafayette and Union. All three are overwhelmingly Democratic in registration, but chose President Bush.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles/2004/11/28/review_finds_fla_counties_voted_for_bush/

[googly]

32. Here is a direct link to Florida newspaper

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FLORIDA_VOTING?SITE=NYSTA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT