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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:39 AM
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Can We Have A Countdown Thread Where
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 09:47 AM by Dinger
there's a report, given by a DU'er, telling what was on the show?
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selmo7 Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:53 AM
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1. Keith Olbermann - 5th in series
You can watch the video for yesterday's show at this site -

http://www.crooksandliars.com/

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:55 AM
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2. I Have Dial-Up : (
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CementDude Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:02 AM
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3. Does Keith have contacts at Kerry/Edwards?
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 10:10 AM by CementDude
Reason I ask..

Last night he reported, as the letter from the Ohio Dem party indicated, that Kerry/Edwards would be "joining" the Ohio recount effort. But then in his blog last night, Keith states that in an updated letter, Kerry/Edwards clarified that they would simply be "participating", *if* a recount happens, and that the participation would involve providing recount witnesses.

I've always assumed (maybe incorrectly) that Keith has had some interesting contact with Kerry/Edwards. But now I wonder if that's not the case, especially since he hasn't been able to confirm Kerry/Edwards involvement, and to what degree, before he does his show.

I worry that the way things are going, with the recount being requested by the Glibs, that there stands a chance this will be decided in the courts. Some Repub. judge might rule that every attempt *was* made to count the votes, and that a recount would not likely change the results of the election in favor of the Glibs (duh, obviously, since they got less than 1% of the vote.)

If Kerry/Edwards were the driving force, and they put some of that $$$millions$$$ set aside for this purpose, behind a recount effort (meaning Kerry/Edwards ASK FOR THE RECOUNT), then we'd stand a better chance because who better than Kerry/Edwards to claim that there is a chance a recount might favor them? As it stands now, they're just sorta hanging out on the corner.. watching what the Glibs do and maybe joining in, and maybe not.

If the Glibs ask for it, someone could argue that the request is frivolous - and a waste of resources (time/money).

If Kerry/Edwards asks - then they have a leg to stand on, especially in a court of law - and in the court of public opinion.
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CementDude Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:10 AM
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4. As a side question..
Has Keith ever had Bev Harris as a guest? She's done some radio/print interviews in recent weeks, but why hasn't she reached out to Keith? He could do a whole show about her efforts.

What am I missing here?
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:13 AM
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5. Boy Would I LOVE To See Bev On Countdown!
:headbang:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:16 AM
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6. Bev was actually set up to be on Keith's show at least twice
But both times, MSNBC cancelled it - Bev thought it was probably because they knew she was going use the word 'fraud' numerous times throughout the show. I heard her say that on the Randi Rhodes show about 2 weeks ago.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:47 AM
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7. I stress caution....don't have grand expectations of MSNBC or NBC or
CNBC.

GE and the execs of the NBCs are still calling the shots - please don't think KO operates independently unless he has a unique contract which would be rare imo.

Remember good cop-bad cop.
Remember viewership - more of us are watching MSNBC for that hour.

Measure the quality of his guests. The regular, Crawford, is demeaning of Dems. Last night, Howie Fineman, was ridiculing some things and Keith went along with it.

Everyone thought Tweetie was turning, then he reversed right back on course - pro Bush, pro agenda.

GE and the NBCs haven't changed and are probably not going to change their support for Republicans and their demeaning ridicule of Democrats until Democrats expose them and until Dem leaders stop going on their shows...which is unlikely.

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