93,000 + excess votes counted in Cuyahoga County

[hippiegranny]

Here are some amazing numbers:


In last Tuesday's election, 29 precincts in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, reported
votes cast IN EXCESS of the number of registered voters - at least 93,136
extra votes total. And the numbers are right there on the official Cuyahoga
County Board of Elections website:



Bay Village - 13,710 registered voters / 18,663 ballots cast

Beachwood - 9,943 registered voters / 13,939 ballots cast

Bedford - 9,942 registered voters / 14,465 ballots cast

Bedford Heights - 8,142 registered voters / 13,512 ballots cast

Brooklyn - 8,016 registered voters / 12,303 ballots cast

Brooklyn Heights - 1,144 registered voters / 1,869 ballots cast

Chagrin Falls Village - 3,557 registered voters / 4,860 ballots cast

Cuyahoga Heights - 570 registered voters / 1,382 ballots cast

Fairview Park - 13,342 registered voters / 18,472 ballots cast

Highland Hills Village - 760 registered voters / 8,822 ballots cast

Independence - 5,735 registered voters / 6,226 ballots cast

Mayfield Village - 2,764 registered voters / 3,145 ballots cast

Middleburg Heights - 12,173 registered voters / 14,854 ballots cast

Moreland Hills Village - 2,990 registered voters / 4,616 ballots cast

North Olmstead - 25,794 registered voters / 25,887 ballots cast

Olmstead Falls - 6,538 registered voters / 7,328 ballots cast

Pepper Pike - 5,131 registered voters / 6,479 ballots cast

Rocky River - 16,600 registered voters / 20,070 ballots cast

Solon (WD6) - 2,292 registered voters / 4,300 ballots cast

South Euclid - 16,902 registered voters / 16,917 ballots cast

Strongsville (WD3) - 7,806 registered voters / 12,108 ballots cast

University Heights - 10,072 registered voters / 11,982 ballots cast

Valley View Village - 1,787 registered voters / 3,409 ballots cast

Warrensville Heights - 10,562 registered voters / 15,039 ballots cast

Woodmere Village - 558 registered voters / 8,854 ballots cast

Bedford (CSD) - 22,777 registered voters / 27,856 ballots cast

Independence (LSD) - 5,735 registered voters / 6,226 ballots cast

Orange (CSD) - 11,640 registered voters / 22,931 ballots cast

Warrensville (CSD) - 12,218 registered voters / 15,822 ballots cast

Entire article is at:

http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOut.htm

[batchdem04]

1. been dubunked :-(

something to do with dividing up the absentee ballots..

[New Earth]

2. but still

how would we be able to find out for sure who those extra votes went to? that is what i mean, statistics like this are great but they don't really lead anywhere. grrr

[jhgatiss]

3. Do we have to review this all the time?

It says this in the same article:



Explanation of Ballots Cast Totals on this page and the Summary Report
In even-numbered years, the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections tallies absentee ballots by Congressional, House, and Senate district combinations. Because of this, the ballots cast totals for municipalities on this web page and on the summary report needs to be derived by using the following technique: For municipalities with wards, find the ballots cast total for each ward and total them. For municipalities without wards, please refer to the contest of interest on the canvass report. Absentee ballots cast totals appear separately at the end of each contest on the canvass report. If you have any questions, please contact the Board of Election’s Ballot Department Manager at [phone].

These odd numbers are a red-herring due to the way Cuyahoga is accounting for absentee ballots.

[flowomo]

6. yep, and I posted the same thing just after you....

but the folks at this site don't buy the "debunk" and say why. I Figure people should see everything there is on it.

[Onlooker]

4. Can someone play devil's advocate with this?

What are elections officials saying about this. If 1000's more voted than were registered, there's absolutely no way to know who they were--terrorists? Communist agents? Diebold employees? People who voted multiple times? If this is really true, then the Ohio results should be rejected. * would still win, thanks to the House, but at least Ohio officials would get the slap in the face they deserve.

[flowomo]

5. here (from the same site) is the "debunking" and a reply:

Explanation of Ballots Cast Totals on this page and the Summary Report
In even-numbered years, the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections tallies absentee ballots by Congressional, House, and Senate district combinations. Because of this, the ballots cast totals for municipalities on this web page and on the summary report needs to be derived by using the following technique: For municipalities with wards, find the ballots cast total for each ward and total them. For municipalities without wards, please refer to the contest of interest on the canvass report. Absentee ballots cast totals appear separately at the end of each contest on the canvass report. If you have any questions, please contact the Board of Election’s Ballot Department Manager at [phone].

The point to keep in mind is that Cuyahoga County has failed to follow the first rule of election reporting: If more votes were cast than the number of voters, then there is prima facie evidence of fraud. It is not up to the public or investigators to recalculate the County's totals. It is up to the County to publish the correct totals. Otherwise, they could be guilty of obstructing investigators and obfuscating the election results, in clear contradiction to their responsibility to the public. Thus rather than explaining the error away, the explanation offered is actually an admission the County published false data. It therefore places the election results in doubt, contrary to the Washington Post's report.] Back to beginning.

[jhgatiss]

7. I just ignore Cuyahoga county.

They are tabulating their numbers is some odd way to deal with absentees and congressional districts. I think this all came up about two weeks ago now at first and its still circulating the web as if it were current info... but its not. It was explained within 24-48 hours.

I still am not satisfied with some of the NC issues as per ignaztmouse's analysis and the exit poll discrepencies. I also want to know more about what's up in Florida with Valushia-gate and Bev's work there. Finally, I want someone to explain the Jeff Fisher business. Those are more of the issues now that don't have cleancut answers.

[Roger_Otip]

8. there needs to be a fraud audit of Ohio

"A fraud audit is not the same as a recount. It does not presume innocence. It does not make the assumption that if there is an anomaly with a benign explanation, it's okay to stop investigating. Any embezzler (or vote manipulator) worth his salt will build in an explanation that makes it sound like it could be an honest mistake, or a "glitch." Any investigator worth his salt knows you have to look deeper."
http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Electoral_fraud_audit

[jhgatiss]

9. I agree completely.

The whole damn country needs a fraud audit! I mean even look at Indiana where Republicans were guaranteed to win and listen to some of the stories coming out there. Its ridiculous that we can't have a fair open and honest election in this country without voter suppression without goofs in the tallies without people voting twice without glitches giving Democratic votes to Libertarians and so on and so on....