New theory: Registration scam and stolen votes

[scoopmeister]

Remember the flood of stories last fall about a voter registration scam on college campuses in which students were tricked into changing their registration from Democratic to Republican, by signing forms they thought were for medical marijuana, etc.? It didn't make much sense at the time, because in most cases it wouldn't have prevented the students from still voting for Kerry.

But...what if the registration switches were a part of the alleged scam to steal the election electronically -- creating phantom GOP voters to match the phantom GOP votes? Read this post -- it explains the theory in detail:

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/extra/archives/001248.html

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. Not bad.

Strangely plausible. Now, it needs to be shown in evidence.

[ccarter84]

2. yeah, I like the theory....

but one thing we should consider is that on college campuses people don't often change their place of registration from back home, for instance i'm still registered in California to vote while i live in d.c.
but if they were doing it at schools that mainly feed off the same state that would be interesting...and the stats are pretty easy to find I think -% out of state students etc.-

[John Q. Citizen]

4. Students in swing states might have switched registration to vote

for Kerry instead of voting in their solid red or blue state.

In your case it made sense to vote absentee in your "home" state.

[ahimsa]

3. Along similar lines...

..when looking at why Republicans did what they did - why did they create "challenge lists?" Remember they sent out mailings to registered voters and any that were returned undeliverable were put on so-called "challenge lists" which they would use at the precincts to prevent people from voting if they were on the lists. What if - instead of using the lists for that, they used them to create legitimate-looking absentee ballots? Or maybe they still looked for these people at the polls but only to determine which ones were not going to vote? Maybe that's why they held them until the last moment, leading to the surge in * votes at the end.

:tinfoilhat:

[Scout1071]

5. Sprouls

As I noted in another thread this morning, i think we need to look into registrations in swing states again. We know that many of the temp workers hired by Sprouls have come forward to say they say their bosses shred Democratic registration forms collected from libraries.

So, can we look into the percentage of rejected voters in key swing state areas and compare to the areas where Sprouls people allegedly registered voters? This could be very damning evidence of voter suppression given the heavy Sprouls ties to the GOP.

Why did this story just fade away?

[scoopmeister]

6. Self-serving....

kick.

[ccarter84]

7. also self-serving

kick

[geo]

8. Scary thought....

Hi all,

Yeah, that could be a motive, but I will say this: it all boils down to those exit polls, and the revelations that come from statistical anayisis. We know there are problems with the numbers, and with some study we know where they likely are. Now we just need to hone in these anomolies.

This, I'm certain, will lead most directly to those responsible, or at least give us the greatest chance of fixing whatever it is that went awry. The registration mishaps, unless they lead to a complete disenfranchisement is really a moot point, and can, for the time being, be somewhat of a red herring.

Gear up... things are going to get real interesting real soon. Stay sharp.

- George :)

[O.M.B.inOhio]

9. brilliant thought, but

Brilliant! But how is it carried out? Are the Repubs sending in proxies to vote at machines? Are they somehow submitting loads of absentee ballots at the end (ala Miracle on 34th St)? Could it be done without a wink and a nod from the election officials?

Answer that and you'll be the lead character in the film version of the 2004 election scandal.

Have you read about the repugs with Palm Pilots? Suppose they were modifying some database of whom to proxy vote for.

[Carolab]

10. Bush's head of Election Systems Paul DeGregorio on registrations

http://www.poconorecord.com/topstory/tjd85449.htm

Meet an election expert who's spent years helping struggling democracies in eastern Europe and the Third World.

His latest project: the United States.

Time and money are being poured into election systems across the country as officials brace for a close count, said Paul DeGregorio of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission.

"We're doing everything we can to get it right," he told a political science class at Northampton Community College on Wednesday.

His biggest worry is the slew of new registrations.

"We've seen a tremendous surge of voter registrations. We know the thousands of election officials are working very hard to get those on the list," said DeGregorio.

There is a safety net, he noted. Voters who show up at their polling place and aren't on the list will be given a provisional ballot.

"They will not be turned away," said DeGregorio, a former Republican campaign manager who has worked closely with Attorney General John Ashcroft and three-term Missouri Sen. Kit Bond.

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