Mike McCurry on Al Franken

[progressiveboston]

He's on currently pooh poohing the idea of election fraud.

"We didn't roll over and play dead. We looked at the numbers and they just weren't there."

[Ducks In A Row]

1. stopped listening to Al awhile ago

if he wants to roll over and take it in the ass, let him

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

2. Mike McCurry took money from the Republicans.

Not surprising he'd say that.

[tishaLA]

3. I could punch him in the nose right now

"oh we looked at the numbers carefully...over night! To fight it would have been a bloodbath and Sen. Kerry didn't want to put the nation through that."

Blech.

Edit: damn my typos!

[hvn_nbr_2]

18. Quotes I never heard in school

"Throwing that tea in the harbor would have been a bloodbath and we didn't want to put the colonies through that."

"Firing those shots at Lexington and Concord... wouldn't want to put the colonies through that."

"Give me liberty or give me calm, quiet tyranny."

[Eric J in MN]

20. You're right. Our founding fathers risked so much,

and Kerry-and-compnany aren't willing to risk some people being annoyed that they don't know the election-results by Thanksgiving.

Boo hoo.

Better to keep them in the dark about the numerous irregularities than to file a lawsuit to help us learn the truth, apparently.

[ewagner]

4. Just heard that

Are McCurry's words "official"?

[Eric J in MN]

19. he's an insiider, if that's what you mean (nt)

nt

[never_get_over_it]

5. Yes and he said

he had dinner the other night with John Kerry and the Senator said we have to look ahead and build on what we have done to win in 2008

HEY JOHN KERRY'S PEOPLE IF YOU'RE READING THIS IF WE DON'T GET RID OF THESE MACHINES IT WON'T MATTER WHAT THE HELL YOU DO - WE WILL ALWAYS LOSE - GET A CLUE!!!!

[renate]

16. I don't think this should be entirely up to John Kerry

Thousands of people gave his campaign millions of dollars to fight what they knew damn well would happen.
If they are truly just caving in instead of flying under the radar, words cannot express my contempt for them.

(Edited because it probably wasn't millions of people who gave him millions of dollars... still they didn't give it to him so he'd have a leg up in 2008, they gave it to his 2004 campaign to get Bush out.)

[WestHoustonDem]

6. What do you expect?

Kerry adviser worked both sides of the street http://www.thehill.com/news/111604/mccurry.aspx

[indigobusiness]

11. McCurry is one of the sharpest knives in the Dems drawer.

Never eat your own.

There was no betrayal...this sums it up"

snip

Bill McIntyre, a Grassroots spokesman and a former spokesman for the National Rifle Association, said accepting RNC money while McCurry advised Kerry was not a conflict.

“Mike took a leave of absence,” explained McIntyre, “We have two offerings here. We have our technology platform and strategic services that go with it, and clients can choose. …

“The RNC uses our technology platform, and they do all of their own strategic work and don’t rely on anyone here, especially Mike McCurry because that would be odd. … It’s the equivalent of the RNC or DNC using a Dell computer or a copier; it’s technology.”

McIntyre explained that Grassroots’ technology platform enables clients to update their databases consistently, allowing them to track how people in the database respond to Internet outreach efforts.

snip

The argument that this helped them beat us is ridiculous.

If the technology was not offered elsewhere, it might wash.

[liberalcenter]

7. A little fraud...

Who cares? Let it go, move on...
I'm glad Tom Hartman has Bev our Hero on his show... I wish Al would do the same.

Fighting on at the LiberalCenter

[progressiveboston]

8. Well he was working on the campaign

Sounds like an official thing to me...
Either way I'm sure that if they find the evidence they need to make a decision, they will act. Right now though I have to admit, I don't have a lot of faith in the fraud investigation changing the outcome of the election. At best I think our best hope is to prove there was fraud and neuter the pResident by taking away his mandate.

[jean]

9. McCurry says they had the lawyers look at everything and decided

there would have to be a legal bloodbath to pursue anything - they didn't want to put the country through it.

One question: are the attorneys experts in election fraud or forensic auditing of elections (like someone we know is)?

Why are the attorneys the final opinion on this? Bev Harris has said you don't get on top of this issue by having a college stats experts run numbers - you have to do forensic auditing to look for evidence and then go forward with recount if the evidence is there.

[htuttle]

10. He and Al said there wasn't ENOUGH fraud to change the election

So they know there was fraud, but they didn't feel there was ENOUGH to change the election.

So I guess a little fraud is okay? And they know it was only a 'little fraud' how? Another psychic audit?

This is really quite depressing.

It would be worse if I wasn't already so cynical, but it's still quite depressing.

[indigobusiness]

13. That is a terrific point.

All fraud should be exposed skillfully, but not shrilly.

[htuttle]

14. Fraud needs to be exposed, period

I don't care if it's shrill or sly. But if a bright public light doesn't shine on it, it spreads.

What I'm getting from the DNC establishment is that they don't want to shine that light, since they are worried about 'embarrassment'.

They DIDN'T address this problem after 2000 (get over it), they didn't address it after 2002 (get over it), and now we are told to get over it again.

I ain't getting over it.

ON EDIT:

And other thing! If they find a 'little fraud', there's simply no freakin' way they can assume there isn't a whole lot more without an audit, and THEY DIDN'T DO ONE!! There's no way those campaign lawyers were in any position to conduct an audit on the morning of November 3. They just assumed there was only a little fraud. Idiotic.

[indigobusiness]

17. It is possible to undermine your own cause

through short-sightedness.

Skillful methods are important. And, if nothing else has been learned recently in this country, style matters as much as substance. Tragically.

Winning a battle is meaningless, winning the war is everything.

[progressoid]

12. I haven't been listening to Al lately

I'm a little ticked that this is all just dismissed as paranoid tin foil hat conspiracies.

No one at the top of the DNC wants to stick their necks out. Even a simple statement about the obvious oddities would be nice. But we hear nothing.

[Kralizec]

15. someone should give them this friggin' site... n/t