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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:34 PM
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STILL UNCOUNTED: 126,443 PROVISIONAL BALLOTS FROM OHIO
There were 126,443 provisional ballots cast statewide in the March 4 primary, compared with 129,432 votes cast in the 2006 general election, when there were 735,000 more voters than in last week's election.

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http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/03/13/absentee.ART_ART_03-13-08_B1_3A9KKBB.html?adsec=politics&sid=101


The 2006 general election shows 9.7% absentee ballots rejected. Better performance than provisionals at 19.2% rejected, but something to keep in mind.

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/SOS/ElectionsVoter/results2006.aspx?Section=1840





ALSO NOTE: RECORD NUMBER VOTE ABSENTEE IN PRIMARY


Record number vote absentee in primary

By Associated Press

POSTED: 06:52 a.m. EDT, Mar 13, 2008


COLUMBUS: Ohio's top elections official says about 500,000 voters cast absentee ballots for last week's election, a record for a primary.

The 503,601 voters who voted absentee represent about 14 percent of the total number of ballots that were cast during the March 4 election, which also had a record turnout for a primary.

Officials expected an absentee record because it was the first presidential primary in which voters could vote absentee without having to give a reason.

All voters could either request an absentee ballot through the mail weeks before the election, or show up at their local boards of election before election day.

In the 2004 primary, 142,012 absentee ballots were counted. In the 2006 general election, 639,416 absentee ballots were counted.

Find this article at:
http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/16638586.html

Absentee avalanche
Record number of primary voters used absentee option; few at polls asked for paper
Thursday,  March 13, 2008 3:32 AM
By Mark Niquette
 
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
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More than a half million Ohio voters cast absentee ballots March 4, a record for a state primary election, Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner announced yesterday.

There were 503,601 absentee ballots counted statewide last week, or 14.6 percent of all votes cast, Brunner said. That easily topped the 140,012 absentee ballots counted in the 2006 primary.

Absentee voting has increased since the state legislature decided in 2005 to remove the requirement that voters provide one of several acceptable reasons for casting an absentee ballot, allowing so-called no-fault absentee voting.

Franklin County led the state's 88 counties last week, with nearly 30 percent of its votes cast coming from absentee ballots. The county encouraged absentee voting as a way to reduce congestion at the polls, airing television commercials and mailing absentee-ballot requests to every registered voter in the county.

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There were 126,443 provisional ballots cast statewide in the March 4 primary, compared with 129,432 votes cast in the 2006 general election, when there were 735,000 more voters than in last week's election.

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http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/03/13/absentee.ART_ART_03-13-08_B1_3A9KKBB.html?adsec=politics&sid=101


The 2006 general election shows 9.7% absentee ballots rejected. Better performance than provisionals at 19.2% rejected, but something to keep in mind.

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/SOS/ElectionsVoter/results2006.aspx?Section=1840
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:51 PM
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1. In case anyone is wondering -they're (PVs) concentrated in the large urban areas.
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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:50 PM
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3. And this implies what? nt
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:40 PM
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6. Voters in large urban cities favored Sen Obama. We'll let the results, when completed verify this.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:36 PM
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2. K&R...nt
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:51 PM
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4. Was this the right count for the Ohio race? See stats:
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 10:52 PM by 1776Forever
Clinton, Hillary (D) 54.29 % 1,212,362

Obama, Barack (D) 44.00 % 982,489

http://vote.sos.state.oh.us/pls/enr/f?p=152:14:0

This article says 16,000 crossed over in Cuyahoga County and may have broken the law by doing so:

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/03/did-ohio-crosso.html

Cleveland Plain Dealer is reporting that in Cuyahoga County alone, the state's largest county, at least 16,000 Republicans switched parties for the primary.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:38 PM
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5. That is the current count w/o provisionals included, however cross-over votes are included
I don't know if they are going to prosecute or how they would on a large scale.

Here is some additional info on cross-over voting in Ohio:




16,000 Republicans in Cuyahoga crossed over and voted Democratic in primary

Source: Plain Dealer

16,000 Republicans in Cuyahoga crossed over and voted Democratic in primary
Sunday, March 09, 2008
Amanda Garrett
Plain Dealer Reporter

A staggering 16,000-plus Republicans in Cuyahoga County switched parties when they voted in last week's primary.

That includes 931 in Rocky River, 1,027 in Westlake and 1,142 in Strongsville. More than a third of the Republicans in Solon and Bay Village switched. Pepper Pike had the most dramatic change: just under half its Republicans became Democrats. And some of those who changed - it's difficult to say how many - could be in trouble with the law.

At least one member of the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections wants to investigate some Republicans who may have crossed party lines only to influence which Democrat would face presumed Republican nominee John McCain in November.


Those who crossed lines were supposed to sign a pledge card vowing allegiance to their new party...

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http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/120505162549970.xml&coll=2


Ohio GOP roots for Hillary
BY HOWARD WILKINSON | HWILKINSON@ENQUIRER.COM

One of the worst-kept secrets of the Ohio presidential primary is that Republican party leaders have a candidate they are rooting for on the Democratic side.

Her name is Hillary Clinton, and they believe that if she wins the Ohio primary and goes on to become the Democratic nominee, she will be the one who unites their dispirited and divided party and give them their best chance of keeping the White House this fall.

It is a belief that the Clinton campaign says is wrong-headed and they will campaign across the state for the next three weeks making the argument that their battle-tested, experienced candidate is the only one who can go toe-to-toe with John McCain, the presumptive GOP nominee this fall.

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http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080213/NEWS01/302130097



A movement is afoot ...

Some Republicans refer to it as "the plot."

It started a few weeks ago when conservative radio powerhouse Rush Limbaugh suggested that his Republican following cross over during the primary to vote for Clinton. Clinton, Limbaugh argued, would be easier for McCain to beat in November.

Soon, local morning radio show host Bob Frantz echoed Limbaugh on WTAM AM/1100, and the buzz began to grow.

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http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/03/crossover_voting_was_heavy_and.html





▪ What might have actually happened in Ohio and Texas? Tin foil hat?
▪ Clip:
: "Rush, I understand that the Rush Limbaugh audience is mobilizing in Texas for Hillary. Am I hearing that right?"

: "I don't know if the audience is mobilizing or not. I am urging people — I am using a phrase — the Republicans — our nominee is chosen. It's John McCain.

Texas is open. And I want Hillary to stay in this, Laura. This is too good a soap opera. We need Barack Obama bloodied up politically, and it's obvious that the Republicans are not going to do it and don't have the stomach for it.

As you probably know, we're getting all kinds of memos from the RNC saying not to be critical there. Mark MacKinnon of McCain's campaign says he'll quit if they get critical over Obama.

This is the presidency of the United States you're talking about. I want our party to win. I want the Democrats to lose. They're in the midst of tearing themselves apart right now. It is fascinating to watch, and it's all going to stop if Hillary loses.

So yes, I'm asking to cross over and, if they can stomach it — I know it's a difficult thing to do to vote for a Clinton — but it will sustain this soap opera, and it's something I think we need. It would be fun, too."

http://www.thomhartmann.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=609&Itemid=113



http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/3513.19


(B) When the right of a person to vote is challenged upon the ground set forth in division (A)(3) of this section, membership in or political affiliation with a political party shall be determined by the person’s statement, made under penalty of election falsification, that the person desires to be affiliated with and supports the principles of the political party whose primary ballot the person desires to vote.




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An Obama-Hater for Clinton, Temporarily
BY JASON HOROWITZ | MARCH 5, 2008 | TAGS: POLITICSBARACK OBAMAHILLARY CLINTONOHIO

Meet Todd Appelbaum, a 46-year-old from Columbus, who wore a shirt that says “Osama for Obama” to the Clinton campaign’s election-night event in Ohio last night.
The white t-shirt, with an image of Barack Obama dressed in traditional Somali garb, is adorned with a blue Hillary Clinton button, although Appelbaum is not what one would call a real Hillary Clinton supporter.
“I voted for Hillary today,” he said, “because I’m concerned that, God forbid, Barack Obama will beat McCain. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
http://www.observer.com/2008/obama-hater-clinton-temporarily

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KU88 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:25 AM
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7. How about a NICE supportive shirt?
These are awesome shirts and they help support the Obama campaign. I'm not lookin' for a fight here, so no political attacks please!I'm just another Jayhawk Momma for Obama who found a need and filled it!



http://kansascity.craigslist.org/clo/597833498.html

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