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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:58 PM
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Hi Guys. What's the status of S.C. voting machines. I heard they aren't so great.
I kicked a post a short while back stating that the machines failed virtually everywhere in S.C. for the R's.

MKJ
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:34 PM
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1. Paper ballots standing by
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 09:39 PM by btmlndfrmr
Paper ballots standing by

By JOHN O’CONNOR - joconnor@thestate.com

A voting-watchdog group is urging state and county election officials to make sure they are prepared for problems during Saturday’s Democratic presidential primary.

If the state’s electronic voting machines fail — as they did last week in Horry County — polls should have ample backup paper ballots. Voters, said Brett Bursey with the South Carolina Progressive Network, might want to plan ahead.

“I’m going to take a pencil and a piece of paper to my polling place,” Bursey said, “and I will vote before I leave.”

Problems arose during the Republican primary last Saturday because the electronic machines were not reset after voting test runs. The machines, said Chris Whitmire, spokesman for the State Election Commission, will not turn on if votes have been recorded.

more...

http://www.thestate.com/choosing/story/294859.html



Machines... Election Systems and Software, don't the precise flavor(s)
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:40 PM
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2. Thanks. :-)
We should have some decent accuracy. :-) MKJ
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:00 PM
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3. My pleasure, you should check out Vickiss's ERF & Related News Friday, 1/25/2008
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 10:00 PM by btmlndfrmr
...excellent data on tomorrow's SC primary.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:03 PM
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4. Double thanks!
:-)

MKJ
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:04 PM
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5. Very cool site...
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 10:09 PM by stillcool47
http://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/

You can see all the voting systems by county in any given state.
A couple of studies on the ES&S iVotronic Voting System
http://www.cs.rice.edu/~dwallach/pub/sarasota07.pdf
http://www.verifiedvoting.org/article.php?id=5165
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:08 PM
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6. Thank you.
:patriot:

MKJ
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:11 PM
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7. ah...I went and looked...
briefly and saw that three counties were all the same. So I provided a couple of links about that particular system. You caught me editing.. :toast:
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:19 PM
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8. I saw that the last year for searching was 2006. Thanks for providing other links.
:-) MKJ
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:50 PM
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9. I'm not sure...
but I don't think states swap out voting systems. I know California and Ohio de-certified different systems and required certain measures be adopted before the machines could be re-certified, and some states sued vendors for different problems. I don't know?
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:57 PM
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10. ES&S. "Once a voter touches the box next to their candidate, the machine takes over
turning the vote into an electronic ballot that cannot be examined, even with access." This is NOT good. From autorank's GDP thread, "Democrats Pass on Challenge to SC Primary."

link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4198958&mesg_id=4198958
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:08 PM
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11. More info here:
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 11:09 PM by sfexpat2000
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:32 AM
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12. Basically, the machines work fine. Depends on how they're programmed.
If they're programmed to cheat for Candidate A, then Candidate A will probably win; if they're programmed to cheat for Candidate B, B will probably win.

What's the problem?
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