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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:15 PM
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Everyone think about it....
The media reported before the election that if Bush won, nobody would be leaving his administration. Yet right after these "moral" issues that swung the election to Bush suddenly became so important, it is now a question of who will stay in the Bush Administration and the subordinates right below the Bush Administration. The media also reported that Bush himself has done the most good out of anyone to getting out the vote against Bush, which would definitely offset and cancel this alleged "moral" vote.

The night of the election, I was watching CNN and they had all but called the election for Kerry. Allegedly Karen Hughes had already informed Bush that he had lost big. Then the Bush team had to present a photo of Bush watching the returns on tv in the White House with his family, even though CNN was reporting that the Bush camp was down and blue. My first thought of the photo was that Bush seemed to be too red in the face like he had been crying his eyes out, and even commented to my wife about it. A little later, CNN showed a film clip of the Bush family giggling and smiling as they watched the returns. Again, Bush himself appeared aloof to what was going on, medicated, or drunk compared to his usual appearance.

Around the same time in the evening, the Crossfire gang was on and all were in agreement that they thought Kerry was going to win without any doubt, but nobody would call the swing States or battleground States. James Carville (Kerry adviser) was so anxious to get the final call for New Hampshire, even though everyone kept telling him that their electoral vote count would not matter compared to Ohio, Pennsylvania, or Florida. Carville remained focused on New Hampshire, and even made a comment about how the vote count in New Hampshire would show how the election would turn out. Now, Nader is specifically calling for a recount of the vote in specific precincts in New Hampshire that did not match up to the exit polls.

Are the American people suppose to believe now that the exit polls were being completely inaccurate only after the introduction of electronic voting machines and computers?

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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:26 PM
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1. I posted a long time ago..
about how the New Hampshire results could've been an early signal as to how the entire election would go down.

New Hampshire was dubbed "The Canary in the Coalmine."

As the night wore-on and no call on NH was made, I grew more and more suspicious. :(
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Us vs Them Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:35 PM
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2. Grew more and more suspicious? As did I...
This was a state that, according to most electoral result maps that night, had a strong democratic lead early, with a gap between Kerry and Bush that only dwindled as the night went on. It was also the last eastern time zone state to be called.
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 04:14 PM
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3. Yes
It took for ever for them to call Pa.& Mich. Florida didn't add up to me either. I had just been in the Ft. Lauderdale, Miami area. It was wall to wall Kerry signs and bumper stickers. I returned home a few days and then went to the St. Louis. Between K.C. to and in St Louis. Kerry/Edwards signs etc. out numbered * 5 to 1. And, How do they explain away all those huge crowds Kerry/ Edward drew across the country, compared to * controlled audience. Something is very wrong.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 04:24 PM
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4. They did the same thing with PA
PA was clearly going blue from the beginning of the night. Yet, they refused to call it for Kerry until after CA closed.

When they first put the map up they gave 3 States to Bush and one very small state to Kerry. They kept the map that way for over an hour. Then they called states for Bush, even when the state had not posted results yet. They refused to turn other states blue throughout the night until the end, yet they called the red states as quickly as possible.

This is the game they played on election night, to make it look like Bush was winning.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 06:13 PM
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5. Actually, I'd seen stories that changes in the Bush Admin. were
likely before the election.
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