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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 06:37 PM Original message |
Pivotal Ohio 2004 Vote-Kerry Was Ahead-Then Server Went Down for 90 Minutes-Result-Bush Had Lead! |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. This would suggest that Ohio voters picked another winner and not |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. You couldn't have said that better. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 01:02 AM Response to Reply #29 |
42. Hello, Gregorian. Yes. That "Whaaaa" moment. Ted Kennedy was |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
138. Thanks for recommending this for GREATEST. I just got back from the cinema and |
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glengarry (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #29 |
174. And they rigged the Ohio Exit Poll to cover up the theft... |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
89. Kerry votes were switched to Bush before the votes were counted. |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. is stealing an election an impeachable offense if proved? nt |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. stealing an election should include culpability for EVERY crime that was committed afterward |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
77. And all appointments by the criminals made null and void. n/t |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #77 |
126. I hope so! |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. How can this be proven beyond ANY doubt? |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
102. THIS is not the issue. The REAL THIS is.... And, it has been PROVEN!! |
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aggiesal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #102 |
130. CLEVELAND -- NewsChannel5 has confirmed that embattled elections chief in Cuyahoga County has resign |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #130 |
147. That was back in early Feb. Here's the thread, still alive w/116 posts today |
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aggiesal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #147 |
190. It stated that he is now in San Diego .... |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
80. I think this would fall under the category of "enemy of the Constitution: domestic." |
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jimshoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
3. This is the stuff Grand Juries |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
131. Is there ANY chance we could get a grand jury to look at this? |
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Skink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
4. Nevermind the Dem voters that gave up after waiting hours to vote. |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. After all of the shenanigans to keep dems from voting they still had to screw kerry out of |
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garthranzz (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. He knew what happened to Gore; he knew what the media would do to him |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. You can't fight something you can't prove |
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JimDandy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #23 |
62. This is why the election records access laws in OH |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
103. THIS is pure seculation, at best. There are reasons to be concerned. NOT THIS!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #103 |
124. Deleted message |
L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #124 |
132. WRONG. This has nothing to do with the exit poll server. It is the OHIO SoS. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #132 |
143. Here's what you are missing |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #143 |
148. What is missing is how Ohio voters voted before their ballots were switched |
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JimDandy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #103 |
129. Again... |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #129 |
170. Go, JimDandy; |
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kiteinthewind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #23 |
66. "outlaw electronic voting [AND Counting!] completely" BINGO! |
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va4wilderness (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Yes, outlaw them- we don't even have mandatory paper trails in most states... |
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kiteinthewind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #72 |
136. It is easy to hack the vote on the optiscan 'counters', as well. They all need to be taken out |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
40. That always bothered me, too. We were ready to fight and he stood down. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
52. The Dem party's election LEGAL team and Office of Voter Integrity were supposed |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
140. Me either! I will never never never understand why! |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #140 |
151. Because he could not put the Ohio ballots back into the right precincts. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #151 |
162. bookmarking! for tonight. Thanks Coyote! |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
128. Bingo! |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
188. What are you talking about? Who had to wait to vote? |
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MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. I hope somebody ends up going to jail for this |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
104. THIS is not what they will go to jail for. n/t |
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MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #104 |
135. why do you say this? |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. It is seriously time to select some special prosecuters. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. I think we need to slam Conyers with some |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
41. He wrote 'What Went Wrong in Ohio' so he knows it was stolen. Why no action yet? |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #41 |
57. Maybe he needs a reminder from |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
106. WRONG. Don't play into this deception. IGNORE THE LIES. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #106 |
125. You're saying NAY to this very real issue an awful lot. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. You are very, very correct. LIES are LIES are LIES and need to be called LIES |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #127 |
142. And do nothing about the lies? WTF? |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #106 |
166. I live in Ohio.....the election |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. Impeachable? Cha! And then some. n/t |
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pepperbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
11. OMG! |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
12. Snip...If the name SMARTech sounds vaguely familiar, it is because the |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Small world, huh? |
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mojowork_n (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Nice Discovery on SMARTech, MelissaB !!! |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. That and... |
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pepperbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. Color me SHOCKED AND AWED!!!! n/t |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
34. Not me! |
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SharonRB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #34 |
101. Me neither, Pats |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #12 |
74. Yep! Not surprised. ....n/t |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
82. This is important, thanks! |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
14. Direct link to above commentary on OpEdNews.com ... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
15. in my opinion kerry lost when the governor of ohio buried |
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ladym55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
17. I have always suspected this |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. How do we get SOMEBODY moving on this?!? |
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ladym55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Well, I haven't camped out yet |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. By The Way, |
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harmonyguy (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
19. Link to the original and related epluribusmedia articles |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. epluribusmedia has done the heavy lifting on this, bookmark them |
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kittenpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
26. From my understanding |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
27. Are we going to let this crap happen again? |
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Peggy Day (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
28. Does that mean the the Supreme Court appointees will |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
31. K&R |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
32. Once again, it's a good thing our *LIBERAL* media is all over this!!! |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
134. That's it, Roland....the MEDIA IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HDQTRS. |
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Freedom_Surfer (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
33. Two time loser |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Hey There! |
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qanda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 05:25 AM Response to Reply #33 |
49. Great post! |
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Handsome Pete (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
37. Kerry rolled over and played dead. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #37 |
58. Welcome to DU. Thanks for your support. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #58 |
86. Well, I'm an old timer |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
38. DEAR KEITH OLBERMANN |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-29-07 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
39. Give credit to epluribusmedia, they are DU'ers & KOSSACK's |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #39 |
76. Thanks. Bookmarked! ....n/t |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
43. IF this can be effectively proved and documented |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
137. I'm with you! We need a special panel & a special prosecutor. However, |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
44. How Many Other States "Got Diverted" ??!!?? |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #44 |
54. See # 50 for an idea! |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
118. More to the point, how many will "get diverted" in '08? |
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JPZenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
121. Only needed to shift 75,000 votes |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 02:42 AM Response to Reply #121 |
173. Oh, far more was needed |
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No DUplicitous DUpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 02:13 AM Response to Original message |
45. This thread needs to be locked, on the Greatest Page... |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Agree. header has to be a banner on DU! Home page - everywhere. |
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No DUplicitous DUpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #55 |
65. "You know no one else will cover it!".... |
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moggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 03:07 AM Response to Original message |
46. Why would "the computer designated to count Ohio votes" be on the web? |
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Mister Ed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 08:24 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. A very important distinction |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 05:06 AM Response to Original message |
47. Why would a vote counting computer be online? |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 08:20 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. nowhere, as far as I know |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #51 |
67. It must be nice |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #67 |
75. what would help |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Actually, I just did start another |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #79 |
94. Well, you are wrong |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. You keep saying |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #97 |
105. I keep saying it |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. People who agree with you? |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. I disagree n/t |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. Disagree? With what? |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. With this: |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Oh, splitting hairs now, are we? |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #116 |
139. BeFree!!!! PLEASE quit engaging that person!!!! |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #139 |
152. That's very true |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
98. are you kidding? |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. How? |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #100 |
108. BeFree giveth, and BeFree taketh away |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #98 |
156. Let's not talk past each other because someone wrote some LIES. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 12:38 AM Response to Reply #156 |
171. Deleted message |
L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #51 |
154. YOU are correct and a voice of reason on DU. |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #154 |
159. ooh, we can probably leave the money out of it |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. AGREED. Josh is GRREAT. I speak to this quote by Josh. |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #161 |
165. gotcha -- as for those guys |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 05:06 AM Response to Original message |
48. And what do the people (especially here) that said bush** won so |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
50. Time for my graph. Also, Kerry, Edwards - feel free to jump in any time- NOW! |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #50 |
59. THIS is the crucial evidence. |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #59 |
69. Well, I wouldn't |
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glengarry (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
195. Graph:1) state exit poll red-shift and voting machine type; 2)state reported machine problems |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #50 |
60. Great graphics. Did you create? Do you have a source? |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #60 |
70. If you find the source, try to fix the plots |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #50 |
71. If it's really YOUR graph |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #50 |
84. See this post: |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. I did - you're very determined to discredit the graph - why?. But then I saw this one: |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #87 |
91. I'm actually not disputing the exit poll data |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #87 |
178. An additional response to your specific question |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #178 |
185. Did someone say LEVERS? |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 03:59 AM Response to Reply #185 |
186. Worse: someone said EXIT POLLS n/t |
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glengarry (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #185 |
189. Did Bush win 100% of returning NY Nader 2000 voters..and 2.5% of NY Gore voters? |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #189 |
191. Don't know; don't care. You can't hack levers in the magnitude required |
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glengarry (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 12:46 AM Response to Reply #191 |
192. Levers can be rigged |
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glengarry (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #191 |
194. Updated NY 2004 analysis |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #50 |
95. Yes, these divergences are the "best evidence" of the underlying reality |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. If they are they "best evidence" |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 02:27 AM Response to Reply #96 |
172. I've explained why they certainly are "best" |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
56. Hello N.Y. Times & Washington Post? |
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luaptifer (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
107. Far as we know only RESULTS of vote |
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byronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
61. Rage -- Building... Head -- Exploding... |
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IWantAChange (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
63. I guess Oversight is a good thing huh??? |
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Sapere aude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
64. Well there is no way to undo the damage that has been done since then. |
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ms liberty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
68. Interesting. Important. And nauseating. Not surprising, though. K&R n/t |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
73. K&R. |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
78. K & R! Revolting. Exit Polls do tell the truth. ....n/t |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
81. Someone's gotta go to jail over this. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
83. This is dynamite! Kerry should have been president |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #83 |
90. He should bring this up to the public. Edwards too. Even now it would make a |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #90 |
168. Do they know about this? |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
112. Smartech is just a Hosting Service. THIS is just a distraction from FACTS. |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
85. Is anyone paying attention to this but us?! Jesus H. Christ! Can we get a public FACE yet??? |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
88. DU was on it that night- |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #88 |
92. SoCalDem - bless your heart! Didn't know we still have that! needs spreading! |
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SharonRB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #88 |
119. I remember those screen shots |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
93. WRONG: YES THERE IS and you have been reading about it on DU |
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SharonRB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
99. This is HUGH!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #99 |
110. This is FALSEHOODS piled on baseless speculation while ignoring the TRUTH! |
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SharonRB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #110 |
120. This is just one more piece to pile on all of the others |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. BUT, what kind of pile does it go on? |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
114. The THUGS STOLE TWO ELECTIONS...that there is enough for Impeachment. |
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Extend a Hand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
117. Paul Hackett vs. Mean Jean |
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Peggy Day (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. Remember the terror threats on election night in Ohio? nt |
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Votergater (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
133. Exactly what mysterious vote counting computer was this? |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #133 |
141. Here's the context |
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Votergater (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #141 |
155. Sorry, but that is not how election results are tabulated and reported |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. CORRECT. "rig the results ... some or all of the 88 ... individual counties." |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #155 |
163. Right |
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Votergater (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #163 |
164. So, what you are saying is - we just don't know what happened. . . |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #163 |
176. WRONG. The computers are Ohio Government computers, the results |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #176 |
179. Say what! |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #179 |
180. If only the people participating understood what they are talking about!! |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. I get it! |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #181 |
182. NO, you don't get it at all. The vote-switching happened before the counting. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #182 |
183. Not arguing that is false |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #133 |
145. LIES and more LIES: There was no "mysterious vote counting computer..." |
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Votergater (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #145 |
160. Agreed - there were in fact 88 mysterious vote counting computers. |
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luaptifer (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #133 |
158. ePluribus results refer to Results server |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
144. Holy shit!! 131 recommendations?? |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. What does that say about DU? 131 Rec's for a lot of LIES. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
149. Same thing happened in the Tester/Burns race |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #149 |
150. It happens in every race. The count does not freeze. It updates when |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. Sorry, I missed one crucial detail |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-30-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #150 |
167. Bingo! |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
169. Kick, because I like the argument about HOW * stole the votes. |
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glengarry (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #169 |
175. The debate is no longer IF Bush stole the election, but HOW.... |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #175 |
177. DON"T FORGET: Kerry-Bush vote-switching shown to be 6.15% in this study. |
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glengarry (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:45 AM Response to Reply #177 |
187. And don't forget: 4.5mm (6.8%) of total votes cast for Kerry were switched NATIONALLY |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-01-07 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
184. Here we go again. Now a DUPLICATE THREAD has started. |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 01:50 AM Response to Reply #184 |
193. BOYBLUDDER, Please be careful about what you say |
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