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[genieroze]

Vote Fraud Theories, Spread by Blogs, Are Quickly Buried
Electronic voting machines, like these at a polling place in West Palm Beach, Fla., are at the center of Internet rumors about election fraud.
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Electronic voting machines, like these at a polling place in West Palm Beach, Fla., are at the center of Internet rumors about election fraud.

By TOM ZELLER Jr.

Published: November 12, 2004

The e-mail messages and Web postings had all the twitchy cloak-and-dagger thrust of a Hollywood blockbuster. "Evidence mounts that the vote may have been hacked," trumpeted a headline on the Web site CommonDreams.org. "Fraud took place in the 2004 election through electronic voting machines," declared BlackBoxVoting.org.

In the space of seven days, an online market of dark ideas surrounding last week's presidential election took root and multiplied.

But while the widely read universe of Web logs was often blamed for the swift propagation of faulty analyses, the blogosphere, as it has come to be known, spread the rumors so fast that experts were soon able to debunk them, rather than allowing them to linger and feed conspiracy theories. Within days of the first rumors of a stolen election, in fact, the most popular theories were being proved wrong - though many were still reluctant to let them go.

Much of the controversy, called Votergate 2004 by some, involved real voting anomalies in Florida and Ohio, the two states on which victory hinged. But ground zero in the online rumor mill, it seems, was Utah.


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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/12/politics/12theory.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5094&en=bef1453564cd6e4e&hp&ex=1100322000&partner=homepage

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[TexasChick]

1. Well, Tom can blow his mouth after the recounts. If he's proven correct,

well, I guess we'll have to accept it. If it proves fraud, then, Tom, STFU!!

[demnan]

2. The last place I'd go for the scoop

would be the snotty New York Times! What arrogant bastards!

[genieroze]

3. Doesn't anybody care

that democracy is going in the toilet. They say we are wearing tinfoil hats, well democratic and moderate republican politicians are going to be wearing political caskets if this crap keeps up. Don't these people see that? Talk about the frog in the cool water and slowly turning up the heat syndrome, we are at a near boiling to death and these people are giving the Reich Wing the matches to do it.

[LisaLynne]

4. I know!

I keep wondering how blanant this has to get before people start storming the castle. However, I don't think I want to know the answer, because I have a feeling we'll all just sit here until the tanks roll into town and we have guns pointed in our faces.

[TangledThorns]

10. Reality Check

I hope some here realize that no other paper disliked Bush more than the NYT. I think articles like this is a hint that we're looking a little paranoid and crazy here.

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[newyawker99]

12. Hi TangledThorns!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[txindy]

14. The NYT was B*sh's biggest flag-waver, especially about phantom WMD

So, no, they don't "dislike" Junior. Not at all. So, you might want to watch who you're calling "paranoid and crazy." Although I'm sure you know people who use those words to describe DU.

[KurtNYC]

5. Corporate media is threatened by the internet

Look how much loaded language there is in this "news" story. I have seen op eds with less slant. Can one reporter, two reporters and an editor, a whole staff even, out research, out fact check or otherwise out report thousands of bloggers? Of course not.

Behind this dismissive article, I hear the death rattle of major media.


In place of investigative journalism we now get this junk -- dis-info-tainment.

[Beam Me Up]

6. Call or e-mail the NYT and let them know what you think.

News media need to understand that THEIR CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE in how they handle these allegations. We won't be satisfied with "move along folks there is nothing to see here" journalism.

Why would a government adopt a flawed voting system that can not be made either secure or verifiable? If they don't think this is a serious issue, a serious question, then it is obvious to anyone that THEY are serving to cover up and misdirect public attention away from this matter.

Let them know how you see this issue:



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[TheNonPanderer]

7. I agree

I agree and I was going to post something on this.

Bloggers suddenly are suspect but was Powerline Blog suspect when they said the Bush Memo from CBS was suspect?

Why are bloggers less credential than Reporters?
Don't Believe the Hype as Public Enemy says

and Dems need to get right to those machines that are CORPORATIZED. You got bamboozled


(sorry this is my first reply... Im not a freeper. I just have never been here before. Thats kind of funny I knew about Free Republic rather than Democratic Underground )

[Old and In the Way]

8. Welcome aboard!

No doubt the internet is a threat to MSM. The days of filering/selective reporting/spinning the news from the top/down are over.

The reason I like DU is we get a wide variety of news instantly reported here.....it's like having 30,000 stringers on board. Once posted, we have lots of people that can debunk/affirm/debate the content. I really think this is the model of the future.

MSM has their own agenda....and it is not necessarilly inclusive of ours.

[Beam Me Up]

9. Welcome TNP n/t

[newyawker99]

13. Hi TheNonPanderer!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast: