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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:04 AM
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American Elections: Free for the Stealing (no change-backs allowed)
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 08:11 AM by Land Shark
Are American Elections “Free for the taking?”

Consider the following:

(1) THE SECRET BALLOT MEANS ELECTIONS ARE FUNDAMENTALLY UNAUDITABLE IN THE USUAL SENSE AND THEIR RELIABILITY THEREFORE HANGS BY A THREAD. Because a real audit involves tracing “final data” like election results back to original source “documents” like voters, once the secret ballot came along in the late 1800s American elections became fundamentally unauditable. With ballot secrecy often in state constitutions, nothing outside the ballots themselves is allowed to be evidence of voter intent, MAKING THE INTEGRITY OF THE BALLOTS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL. Only a rigorous chain of custody and various safeguards against (a) ballot tampering, (b) deliberate over-voting ballots of disfavored candidates, or (c) substitution of ballots can ensure a reliable system.

(2) GIVEN THAT ELECTRONIC VOTING ADDS PROBLEMS OF (a) SECRET VOTE COUNTING, (b) INVISIBLE BALLOTS, (c) READILY CHANGEABLE BALLOTS (d) IMPOSSIBILITY OF VERIFYING UNALTERED CHAIN OF CUSTODY, ELECTIONS ONCE HANGING BY A THREAD OF RELIABILITY HAVE NOW COLLAPSED. The secret ballot all by itself drew a circle around the population of ballots and prohibited any kind of tracking of those ballots’ owners. The only way such a system could work is if the ballots were themselves difficult to destroy, easy to track, contained indelible marks of voter intent, and were subject to solid lock and key chain of custody controls. Electronic voting throws those out the window.

(3) AS A RESULT OF (1) and (2), THERE IS NO RATIONAL BASIS FOR CONFIDENCE IN AMERICAN ELECTION RESULTS. IT CAN NOT BE PROVEN THAT THE WINNERS ACTUALLY WON. Election results are at best inconclusive and almost inevitably lead to debates between various political parties.

(4) TO MAKE MATTERS FAR WORSE, ELECTIONS ARE FREE FOR THE STEALING FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:

(a) Elections officials are not trained in the computer forensics and security skills needed for protection of elections.

(b) Even if a well funded elections office was computer forensics and security skills in its office, it’s in the form of a specialist who rarely has detailed understanding of the nature of elections, which is also very necessary to protect elections.

(c) Even if an elections office has the requisite training and experience within the same person, that person is often without sufficient authority to do rigorous work.

(d) Even if the single person has sufficient authority to do rigorous work, election officials do not and can not identify “smoking guns” of election fraud. IF THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR, THEY WON’T FIND IT.

(e) Even if they found a smoking gun, ANY PLAUSIBLE REASON is enough for the elections officials as well as the press to look no further, because to continue to investigate would be “conspiracy theory.”

(f) Yet, if an election fraud is going to occur, any election criminal worth their salt is going to make the fraud look like a real election with plausible excuses for any minor irregularities, therefore, the election is inappropriately ended.

(g) Even if the election investigation were to continue, nobody is very good at blowing the whistle on themselves, and nobody can really audit themselves. Yet elections officials are often expected to do this (or volunteer in effect to do this, but it never gets done properly.) Therefore, checks and balances whereby elections officials audit or check themselves don’t work. The public must serve this checking and auditing function, but it has been eliminated from meaningful oversight of elections.

(h) Even if an investigation is ongoing, elections officials are often under a statutory duty to certify results which they can not refuse without a compelling specific reason to do so; in some states it is even a crime to not timely certify the results. Given the lack of evidence that creates the “no basis for confidence” above, the same lack of evidence will deprive elections officials of the specific evidence necessary to justify a refusal by the elections officials to certify the election results.

(i) Even if the investigation actually proceeded far enough and proved something, it would likely come long after the very short deadlines for election contests, recounts, and certification of results.

(j) Even if the investigation is proceeding, media pressure for quick reporting of results and the resultant declaration of apparent winners and losers creates strong political dynamics that act powerfully to dissuade “sore losers” from ever filing a challenge.

(k) Even if the investigation actually happened in record time, and managed to beat the above deadlines, Congress may in a federal election swear in its candidate it deems the winner, and then argue that the exclusive power to look into the elections has thus transferred to the Congress via Art. I, sec. 5 of the Constitution, depriving all citizens of any oversight power as well as state courts and local elections officials.

(l) Even if the investigation happens in record time, beats the deadlines, and there is no premature swearing in, the elections officials routinely claim that they are too busy to respond to public records requests during counting or recounting periods, and thus the citizens who might mount a challenge are deprived of the timely information to do so.

(m) Even if timely information is available, the candidate that lost is under or will be put under intense personal pressure and vilified by the opposing side if he or she contests the election, but if the candidate does not join the contest, the contest is typically ignored because “even the candidate doesn’t think it’s good enough to join the contest” leaving the citizens to act alone.

(n) Even if the citizens get the information timely and are prepared to act alone and afford the legal assistance necessary for this, they must be prepared to absorb, analyze and very rapidly respond to the information disclosed with their election contest.

(o) Even if an election contest is filed, it must survive a gauntlet of procedural hurdles set up in election laws (all of which are by definition passed by incumbents) that tend to highly favor incumbents over challengers.

(p) Even if the election contest survives this procedural gauntlet, only certain statutory grounds are allowable for election contests, and these are typically defined narrowly, and have not been adequately adjusted to electronic vote counting technologies. Archaic statutes for example may require contestants to specify the names and addresses of voters whose votes were not properly or legally counted, which may be impossible with electronic voting.

(q) Even if a ground is available for the contest that is allowable under law, the case must be over and finished with in record time for court cases, usually around a month or even less.

(r) Even if you make it all the way, the court or the county clerk may price a recount at a cost so high as to be prohibitive. Many statutes require the court to hire assistants to count the ballots, a headache that most courts are anxious to avoid.

(s) Even if the court hires the assistants necessary for a recount, if any result is reached that criticizes the elections officials, the judge’s next election may well be counted by those very same elections officials, and the judge will earn political enemies among the loser’s supporters.

(t) Even if you have a meritorious case, the defendants may countersue with an anti-SLAPP suit, claiming the case is frivolous and asking the judge for damages and/or attorneys’ fees and costs against the citizens.

(u) The political term at issue may expire before the trial of the election contest and all available appeals are exhausted, especially in the case of a short or special term election.

(v) Even if all of the above hurdles are cleared and you make it to trial, the judge, jury (if allowed) and the public are unlikely to understand you’re e-voting case since it will probably have to rely upon technical evidence. Note especially that with electronics both sides will need computer experts and these “battles of experts” are exactly what long trials are often all about. The truth may ultimately be on your side but it will be difficult or impossible to get the public to understand why the truth is on your side because of its technical detail and sophistication. The other side’s expert will obfuscate and claim everything’s fine. A win may seem more like a confusing stalemate of experts.

This is by no means a FULL and COMPLETE list. But the bottom line is, once the election is stolen or inaccurate, it is highly unlikely or impossible that any subsequent audit, investigation, recount, or election contest is going to change the momentum created by the reporting of the initial election results.

Those interested in strategically wise intervention in elections should focus on effective safeguards occurring primarily if not exclusively prior to the first reporting of results, focus on increasing available information, and focus on slowing down the post-election rush-to-final-certification.

In a nutshell, the elections process starts with secret vote counting and unauditable secret ballots, and ends in a rush to certification and a procedural gauntlet of barriers to transparency that are formidable to say the least, such that electronic elections are FREE FOR THE STEALING.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:06 AM
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1. K & R for Transparent Democracy nm
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:19 AM
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2. Awwwww come on. . .
You've gotta have w,x,y, & z up your sleeve. You're holding out on us.

Kidding.

No seriously, it's a great compilation and list of info. Too bad it's all true.

K & R'd
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:32 AM
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3. Actually, up to the Greek letter theta, but already it's too long i'm told
but this can be a skeleton upon which to hang other information to develop an even more complete list of how the press and the government, for whatever reasons or non-reasons, effectively prohibits public oversight of elections, often in violation of the wishes of 92% of the American public according to the August 2006 Zogby poll.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:20 AM
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6. How the heck did ya get to 8. . .?
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 09:36 AM by stellanoir
Methinks perhaps you've been hangin' with the election officials and pollsters too much and forgot how to count by osmosis :) Or are you saying that it's really much longer? No matter.

Actually though, if you reformatted 1 to a, 2 to b, 3 to c. 4 to d, a to e, b to f, c to g, etc. . .you'd have a complete alphabet soup of electoral poop. That's a joke and not at all an editorial suggestion.

It's not too long. It's that the system is *that* appallingly convoluted really.

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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:38 AM
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4. The answer is YES...
with a K&R #5
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:18 AM
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5. What a magisterial analysis, and so simply summarised in the
last sentence:

"In a nutshell, the elections process starts with secret vote counting and unauditable secret ballots, and ends in a rush to certification and a procedural gauntlet of barriers to transparency that are formidable to say the least, such that electronic elections are FREE FOR THE STEALING."


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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:50 AM
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7. That covers all the bases of elections fraud....
and there is proof that republicans have perfected the practice.

K & R.

This is beyond unacceptable, and the republicans who have taken over this country know damn well that it is theirs for the stealing.

It's time to take to the streets, and throw the phucking machines into the harbor.

:kick::kick::kick::kick:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 11:28 AM
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8. Trying reverse a stolen election is like trying to un-crash a car.
Great detailed look at how feeble the protections really are.

K&R.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:27 PM
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9. Hijack Americans' Vote Act
is what it should have been called.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 06:24 PM
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10. Agree, Land Shark !00% And
Too often this become an academic exercise; only a handful get indicted, even after a
winning count is determined for the "loser" nothing is done, no one is held accountable.
So in effect, we are currently rewarding people for ballot box stuffing and election fraud.
And I would like to add with these small plastic cards, what's to keep motivated individuals
from running a whole stack thru the machine before the voters enter and pre-voting for their
candidate of choice. They said that I had voted before I walked through the door in
Baltimore City, now how did I before I got there?
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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 06:53 PM
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11. A treasure!
Thank you, Land Shark! Will go about spreading the link to this far and wide!
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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:34 PM
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12. Very long and involved list.
I am troubled though that you start and end with the secret ballot, as if it were a source of the problem. I hope that is not your intent, as the secret ballot is indispensible if one wants democratic voting and results.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:47 PM
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13. It's a good question, I am not proposing to end the secret ballot
but I am VERY MUCH stressing how extremely precarious the secret ballot makes the reliability of the entire system. LIke i said, because of the secret ballot alone, the reliability of elections hangs by a thread of checks and balances related to keeping the ballots locked, unchanged, unaltered, and unsubstituted.

The secret ballot is the source of a "problem" depending on how you define "problem." It would be most accurate to say that it is a protection against intimidation and duress in voting that is the source of great "challenge." That pressure against voters which included bribery and so on was endemic prior to the widespread acceptance of the secret ballot, let's call all of these pressures the "public pressure/fraud pressures". Now, when the secret ballot comes along all of that pressure isn't effective any more but it doesn't just disappear! The public pressure/fraud pressures are then transferred to the COUNTING of the vote where they assert whatever pressures they can in a much less open, and much less transparent manner.

I'm mainly trying to get people to understand how precarious the election system is, based on the secret ballot alone. So when you stress the system even more with electronic voting, it's a goner....
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 10:34 PM
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15. Indeed
Historically, there have been many opportunities to cheat on the vote counts. What we are faced with now is a new and most opportune electronic system whereby votes can en masse be cheated away with.

Much time and money have been spent on elections due to the power that ensues with winning an election. The whole power structure of the free world rests on the basis of who, or who is not elected.

The laws of my state are a convoluted mess, basically unreadable by a plain citizen such as myself. And that was before electronics were introduced!

Since the wanna-be power seekers look for any and every angle to slide into the process their corruptive actions, they've found the electronic slipperiness makes this new angle productive for them.

In what was before a carefully constructed fence to keep out the criminal acts hoping to cheat votes away, we now find a hole the size of which you can drive a mack truck through.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:50 PM
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20. This also shows that even a well-intended reform has to be evaluated
for how it affects the entire "kaleidoscope" of elections, i.e. a shift in one place affects several other places as well as patterns rearrange...
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 07:00 PM
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22. Which means
Real reform will simplify the whole she-bang.

The laws do not need to be so convoluted. They just need to be enforced. Hang a few election thieves from the gallows and most crooks will quit trying to crook the system.

(note that I am not really in favor of the death penalty, the gallows is just rhetorical term, K, yall?)

But once they see a few hanging in the public square, the rest will go back to their hidey-holes where they belong. Just as if you never had Highway Patrols - the speeders would always do their thing. Without putting some of the vote stealers away there is no great fear of being caught, is there?

And really, what crime is actually worse than stealing our democratic voices? Stolen consent means many innocents will suffer, indeed, have suffered.

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Einsteinia Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:50 PM
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14. But there is an answer. . . .
next week look for the Titanium Standard.

#:)
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 11:31 PM
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16. Important point.


"But the bottom line is, once the election is stolen or inaccurate, it is highly unlikely or impossible that any subsequent audit, investigation, recount, or election contest is going to change the momentum created by the reporting of the initial election results."

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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:11 AM
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17. I thought they were free for the stealing because TIA was banned! nt
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:50 PM
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21. Sometimes authors are amazed by the reactions of readers, since I
certainly never even had TIA cross my mind for a single second while drafting this post. Though, perhaps he should have....
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 08:25 AM
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18. This is a very good aurgument for changing Art. I,sec. 5 of the
Constitution. I don't think that was you desired effect. I read somewhere on DU about demanding paper ballots. What do you think of emergency paper ballots?
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:47 PM
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19. Or, an argument for properly interpreting Art I, sec. 5 of the Const.
On Emergency Paper Ballots: we need to be ready to replace this system at short notice with the best we got. So yes, something very much like that.

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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:36 PM
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23. K&R- Hand counts NOW!!! Democracy NOW!!!
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