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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:16 AM
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A Plan to Fix Our Broken Elections (The Nation)


A Plan to Fix Our Broken Elections

The Sunday Washington Post headline said it all. Echoing a theme that is finally being picked up by print and broadcast media that for too long has neglected the dramatic problems with this country's systems for casting and counting votes, the newspaper's front page announced: "Major Problems At Polls Feared: Some Officials Say Voting Law Changes And New Technology Will Cause Trouble."

Following a disastrous election day in Maryland that was defined by human blunders, technical glitches, long lines and long delays in vote counting so severe that some contests remain unresolved almost a week after the balloting, the Post declared that, "An overhaul in how states and localities record votes and administer elections since the Florida recount battle six years ago has created conditions that could trigger a repeat -- this time on a national scale -- of last week's Election Day debacle in the Maryland suburbs, election experts said."

No fooling!

more at:
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=122699

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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:45 AM
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1. Paper, paper, paper, paper, paper is the only fix for now!
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:06 AM
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2. But I thought...
...anyone who questioned our election process was a "conspiracy theorist?"

Never mind...
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:25 AM
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5. Maybe David Corn is eating
some crow.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 11:27 AM
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8. I doubt it...
...he is another self absorbed "hard hitting" journalist who can never see his own blinders. Thomas Friedman comes to mind as well. When a JournoGod changes positions, as Tommy has been doing lately, they act as if they always felt this way.

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia...
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:59 PM
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9. David Corn's position on 11/9/04
Anyone who questioned the integrity of the nation's voting system--before the election or after--has had good reason to do so. Electronic voting that does not produce an auditable paper trail is worrisome--as is the possibility that the machines can be hacked. The proponents of these systems claim there are sufficient safeguards. But in this election there were numerous reports of e-voting gone bad.... The skeptics--correct or not in their claims of fraud--are right to be concerned in general about the vote-counting system.... The system ought to be so solid that no one would have cause even to wonder whether an election has been stolen.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20041129/corn

So, how has Corn changed his position? and what is so outrageous about his position, anyway?
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:11 AM
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3. you mean the repubs fixed the process
by screwing it up way more than it was in the first place, giving them TONS of room to impart their will on a population out of confusion and delay? I just don't believe it.

I mean on the surface it seems that they never really wanted to 'fix' anything that was wrong in Florida because the outcome was actually WHAT THEY WANTED. There was nothing to 'fix' but there were many problems around the nation because the other states might actually have a valid election that they couldn't manipulate. So, in order to make the rest of the country a more likely place for repubs to win elections unfairly, they initiated a program that would fuck up the rest of the country.

Now, we all know that is so ridiculous.....

:sarcasm:
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:14 AM
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4. Maybe it's time to ask for ALL PAPER VOTING for now, until it's secure. ?
surely we can find independent vote counters?

Isn't his how Canada votes all the time?


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 11:03 AM
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7. That's what SHOULD be. Paper ballots. Hand counts. Video cameras recording
every precinct counting ballots - you wouldn't even have to find independent vote counters if the cameras are trained on the counters.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:40 AM
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6. I like John Bonifaz's no. 1 plank:
"1. Count every vote

"The right to vote includes the right to have our votes properly counted.

"We must ensure that every citizen's vote will be counted. This includes a guarantee of open and transparent elections with verified voting, paper trails, hand-recorded paper ballots, and access to the source codes for, and random audits of, electronic voting machines. It also includes a guarantee that we the people, through our government, will control our voting machines -- not private companies."

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...although I think we need to start with a TOTAL BAN on all electronic voting machines and central tabulators, and a return to PAPER BALLOTS, HAND-COUNTED IN PUBLIC, WITH RESULTS ANNOUNCED AT THE PRECINCT LEVEL, until we have restored confidence in our elections, and have rooted out all the corruption among local election officials, and state and national legislators, that the privatization of our elections has brought about. This corruption was the handiwork of the biggest crooks in the Anthrax Congress--Tom Delay and Bob Ney, abetted by corporatist Democrats like Christopher Dodd--and it includes bi-partisan corruption at every level. They allocated over $3 billion for the fast-track conversion to Bushite-corporate controlled electronic voting, and furthermore permitted unregulated, lavish lobbying, to corrupt our election system from one end of the country to the other. This privately-controlled electronic voting system should NEVER HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE. It was forced into place through big bucks contracts and bribes, and has resulted not only in non-transparent, unverifiable elections but also in a culture of secrecy that now pervades election offices, where the voters have become "the enemy." Our election officials have much to hide, including their addiction to the heady power of big electronics contracts and to TRADE SECRET, PROPRIETARY vote counting. And what we need is a BIG BROOM to sweep the system clean. Bonifaz's proposal for public access to the source codes in electronic voting machines may push evildoers like Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia out of the "business of elections" (they can go peddle their fascist wares in No. Korea and Uzbekistan), but their stench will remain unless we get rid of the collusive election officials and legislators who sold away our right to vote. With fewer bucks, and fewer lobbying junkets, some will lose interest and drift over into corporate employ, where they belong.* But control over U.S. elections is a BIG PRIORITY of the Corporate Rulers, and they will hang onto it with tooth and claw. They have already "swift-boated" one good, anti-Diebold Secretary of State out of office (Kevin Shelley in Calif.). What are they doing to stop Bonifaz, Debra Bowen (running for SoS in Calif.), and other good candidates? And what might WE do to protect good SoS's once they are in office (if they can get elected in this system)? (Also, hey are already putting their backup plans in place--for instance, Voter ID to curtail voting by the poor; also, electronic voter databases, which make speedy, unfair, hard-to-remedy voter purges possible; and the backup plan of blaming the touchscreens, and retaining the optiscans and central tabulators--ALSO run on TRADE SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code--a backup plan that the official Dem Party supports!).

What Bonifaz is facing is the COMBINED opposition of Bushites AND corrupt DEMOCRATS--indeed, that's what all election reformers have been up against. Electronics = money. And that is the problem.

But, beyond that, American votes in general = money. If you can fiddle American votes, you can make LOTS OF MONEY. American votes are pure gold. We should be flattered. You wonder why they've put such THOUGHT into stealing our elections? Because we have the potential power, as the sovereign people living at the vortex of global corporate power, to CURTAIL them! To limit their unconscionable profits. To stop their corporate oil wars. To prevent their theft of resources and their oppression around the globe. And even to dismantle these bad actor corporations and seize their assets for the common good. Chevron, Exxon-Mobile, Halliburton, Fox News, the lot. Chartered here. Disbandable here. And, at the very least, subject to OUR regulation, should we ever be able to restore transparent elections.

This is what it's really all about. The electronic voting coup is, of course, the "logical" conclusion of predatory corporate behavior that began back in the 80's with the Reagan regime (looting of the Savings and Loan institutions--the bedrock of the American middle class--the first re-write of the tax code to favor the rich, the "era of greed" (but we hadn't seen nothin' yet!), and the illegal and heinous war on Nicaragua). Corporate corruption of our elections has involved the filthy campaign contribution system, commercial TV campaign ads (which is why candidates have to raise all this money), and out of control lobbyists, among other things. But before we can address any of these OTHER ways that the Corporate Rulers have entrenched their power, we MUST get rid of electronic voting. No if's, and's or but's.

Bonifaz has come closest to saying this (--in his proposed public access to all source code). I hope he can get elected. IT'S CLOSE! IF YOU ARE A MASSACHUSETTS VOTER, GET OUT THERE TODAY! VOTE FOR BONIFAZ AND GET EVERYBODY ELSE YOU KNOW TO VOTE FOR HIM! IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT! They are more than likely putting a "thumb on the scales" against him, but turnout CAN overcome that handicap (since they can't be too obvious in the electronic fiddle). DON'T BE DISCOURAGED! That's what the bad guys want! NEVER GIVE UP ON YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE! *NEVER!* GET OUT THERE AND VOTE--and then FIGHT LIKE HELL to see that your vote is COUNTED! "Win" or "lose" (hard to say, in this system), Bonifaz's campaign is just ONE PART of a huge grass roots movement for election reform that is going to win in the end. Remember that!

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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:31 AM
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10. Someone does not want clean elections.
or they would have been cleaned up sooner. Repubs know they can't win without their fixed machines. The polls will be changed to whatever the Repubs want them to say.

How can we win an election with their machines? They are proven cheats!
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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:05 AM
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11. Drip, drip, drip...
*bump*
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