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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:32 AM
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Election glitches ‘could get ugly' (USA Today)

Election glitches ‘could get ugly'
New voting equipment, lack of training feed fears
By Richard Wolf
USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — Eight weeks before elections that will decide control of Congress, a rush by state and local governments to prepare new voting machines and train poll workers is raising the possibility of trouble reminiscent of the 2000 presidential election standoff.

Problems range from delayed delivery of new equipment to an insufficient supply of trained technicians to fix anticipated problems, voting experts say.

Already this year, glitches have occurred in Arkansas, California, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas and West Virginia. Maryland became the latest on Tuesday, when technical problems, human errors and staff shortages led officials to keep some polls open an extra hour.

The fall elections shape up as the most technologically perilous since 2000, election officials say, because 30% of the nation's voting jurisdictions will be using new equipment. They include large parts of Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Virginia, scenes of key Senate races. “If you're ever going to have a problem, it's going to be that first election,” says Kimball Brace, president of Election Data Services.

more at:
http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20060914/1a_lede14.art.htm
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:37 AM
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1. "Could"?
Methinks USA Today should get an award for the most understated statement of the day.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:24 PM
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4. Me too.
I think it's goign to be downright nasty!
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:54 AM
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2. If there were not enough machines in my precinct I would sue for
extended voting hours even up to several more days. It is not the voters fault that the election officials are incompitent.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:12 PM
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3. Our infrastructure is falling apart, and voting machines
are by far the most important elements in that infrastructure.

Thanks to DUHbya, we're too broke to fix what's broken.

Newsprism
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:41 PM
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5. Machines are only part of the problem
The re-pukes continue to try stunts and create hurdles to voting. They focused on certain state races to control the election process and monkeywrench the system. In my own native Minnesota Kiffemeyer attempted to throw out voter registration requests based on the paper cardstock weight.

I don't think I need to mention Ohio or Florida or New Mexico to anyone.

But yeah, the machines need to be fixed too.

Demand a paper trail. It is the best protection. Oh yeah, and volunteer to be a judge in your district too. Make this one as hard to steal as you possibly can!
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:30 PM
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16. You have to demand audits too. Paper is meaningless w/o audits!!
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PegDAC Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:03 PM
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17. They're desperate! n/t
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:37 PM
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6. #4 (NT)
(NT)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:41 PM
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7. K&R.(nt)
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:13 PM
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8. How much do you wanna bet...
that 99% of the "glitches" will just happen to favor the Republicans.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:37 PM
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9. They better get ready to redo the votes, then.
We will NOT stand for any more stolen elections!
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:46 PM
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11. You and what army?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:57 PM
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12. Huh? Are you saying you think 65-70% of the people in this country
will sit back and watch the neo-cons flush what's left of it down the toilet?
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:42 PM
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10. What about 04????
If your ever going to have a problem, it will be lost in software that the public, and even the Election Officials don't have access to. Die bold will own yet another election, and We the People will never again have our votes counted.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:49 PM
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13. great map and additional articles inside on pages 9-10 n/t
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:28 PM
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14. Is this going to cause the protests they're gearing up for?
Because, if we have a bunch of little problems not related to hacked voting machines--i.e. long lines, machines "going down" in Democratic precints, "inadvertantly" discarded ballots, etc. it will cause massive protests. But at that point, if they know they have a majority they can perform some quick swearing in sessions (based on the precedent set in San Diego), and then who's going to do anything about it against a newly solidified, Republican controlled government?

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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:30 PM
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15. Talk about LIHOP MIHOP Cr*p.
Does anyone doubt for a second that if so desired, this United States of America
could create the best vote counting system on the planet ever in history?

No one wants a valid vote.
I do not pretend to know why.
I just see what I see.

If you answer that absolutely the Democrats certainly
want a valid vote counting system then explain
why we will still not have one once we regain
control. If I am proven wrong in spite of decades of
history to the contrary why I have a recipe for cooked
hat waiting for the occasion.
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jslsingleton Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:08 PM
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18. Wisconsin: Waukesha County voting bedeviled
Waukesha County voting bedeviled
Inoperable machines, incompatible computers hamper ballot counts
By Scott Williams, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
swilliams@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Sept. 13, 2006

Waukesha - Computer glitches, inoperable equipment and other problems troubled Tuesday's primary balloting in Waukesha County, resulting in one candidate mistakenly being posted as winner of a race only later to be declared the loser.

The problems also prevented the county from posting final results of races until the early morning hours of Wednesday, and kept the county from posting results online.

Across Wisconsin, Tuesday's primary marked the debut of 2,800 new handicap-accessible voting machines mandated in 2002 under the Help Americans Vote Act.

In Waukesha County, problems with touch-screen equipment were among a host of snafus.

Christine Lufter, who lost a Republican primary in the 97th Assembly District, said Wednesday that she would not likely challenge the outcome, although she was still trying to sort out what happened.

"There was obviously a huge problem," she said. "And why it affected the 97th race more than any other is confusing."

Computer monitors at the county clerk's office late Tuesday briefly showed Lufter winning her race, as county officials scrambled to correct flawed returns from the City of Waukesha.

Final results later showed Lufter losing to fellow Republican Bill Kramer by a significant margin.

County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus said some returns from the City of Waukesha inexplicably had data recorded in the wrong column, which momentarily skewed results.

Nickolaus and her staff resorted to correcting the city's results manually - a process that continued until 1 a.m., with staffers poring over a blizzard of numbers on computerized printouts.

"The best thing to do is go back to paper," Nickolaus said of the tedious process. "And that's exactly what we did."

Waukesha City Clerk Thomas Neill said city officials had been unable to test the county's program for reporting results because they were busy readying their touch-screen voting machines. Those machines arrived just a week ago, Neill said, adding that the new equipment turned out to be inoperable Tuesday.

"There was a glitch that we didn't find out about until election day," he said of the touch-screen machines.



more at:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=497728
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Blue Shark Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 10:58 PM
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19. Best thing that could ever happen...
...I hope for rioting in the streets once people learn on a widespread scale the kind of elections America holds now-a-days.

...So sad that John Forbes Kerry II allowed himself to become George Bush's bitch after he won the 2004 General Election.
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doctor_garth Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 03:26 AM
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20. this is the MSM
already preparing Americans for the idea of Repugs keeping both houses. The fix is in, folks.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 10:41 PM
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21. Like when they told us that the exit polls got it all wrong - this time
GOP will state claim that apparently the media was wrong all along...!

Seriously, If Bush simply gives Rove the nod to to the dirty with the voting machines and the same day -> a major news event occurs for the diversion and the next thing ya know it's the next day/week!!!!!!!!!
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