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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:22 PM
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Sarasota drags FL. SoS to court Wed. Paper trail demanded!
Let me try this one more time again.

I assume someone is from Fla? And the issue is citizens action demanding paper trails!




If this has been posted, I cannot find it. It really should be on Election Reform, Fraud, and Related news.

(There was no URL available to me, but someone local should have it)


"Sun Herald - 09/08/06

Fri, September 08, 2006
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"09/08/06
Elections officials ordered into voting machine case

Florida's top elections officials have been dragged into the Sarasota County legal dispute over a proposed charter revision that would require voting machines capable of producing verifiable paper ballot receipts for mandatory recounts and spot audits.

Late Tuesday, in the midst of a primary voting, the Pelican Press learned that Secretary of State Sue Cobb would be represented at a Wednesday hearing before Circuit Judge Robert Bennett and anticipated being ordered into the case as a defendant.

"We understand the county has requested that the judge name the state as a defendant," said Stirling Ivey, a spokesman for Cobb. "Last Friday, the county deposed David Drury, who is in charge of voting machines for the Florida Division of Elections."

What unfolds in the 12th Judicial Circuit Court this week could have expensive implications for the 14 other Florida counties that -- like Sarasota -- have invested heavily in electronic touch-screen voting machines that do not produce verifiable paper ballot receipts.

A local citizens' group known as the Sarasota Alliance for Fair Elections has gathered more than the 12,030 certified signatures of registered county voters to have a referendum question placed on the Nov. 7 general election that would require a paper trail.

County Attorney Steve DeMarsh reviewed the petition language and raised enough legal questions about it at an Aug. 22 meeting that he convinced commissioners to request a circuit court ruling as to whether a voting machine question should appear on the ballot.

In the days that followed, the county filed a complaint against both SAFE and Supervisor of Elections Kathy Dent for declaratory relief, and the petitioners filed an order with the court to show cause why the referendum question should not appear.

"Sarasota County is asking the court whether the language is acceptable," Ivey said, "and the state is being brought in to testify whether it violates election law. The secretary has a number of private law firms on retainer, and one in the Sarasota area will be present at the hearing."

On June 30, Dent certified the proper number of signed petitions had been submitted to compel a special election, but the county commission didn't take up the issue until Aug. 22. A lengthy legal delay could result in the voting machine question being left off the ballot.

In 2001, the county spent $4.7 million to buy 1,615 ES&S iVoltronic paperless voting machines. Only 15 other counties rely exclusively on paperless equipment. New ES&S equipment is available with printers that produce a paper trail, but for some reason it isn't state certified.

Dent has defended the paperless machines and insisted they produce accurate results, but their reliability has been called into question by experts who claim they can be tampered with. Nevada recently ordered printers attached to all of its previously paperless machines.

On Aug. 22, DeMarsh told the county commission, "We've identified a number of (petition) provisions that appear to conflict with the state election code. If the commission is in doubt, it should seek declaratory relief in the courts."

He also said a court ruling must be handed down by Sept. 15 if the charter proposal is to appear on ballots mailed to members of the armed forces and out-of-town residents who are registered to vote in the county. The commission agreed to seek a court ruling.

If the court doesn't rule on the case until after Sept. 15, but decides the charter amendment should be put before county voters, it would force Dent and her office to hold a special election on the voting machine issue at a cost that could exceed $250,000.

By JACK GURNEY

Pelican Press


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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:25 PM
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1. Great news!!!
I hope these infernal things are banned - everywhere.
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:29 PM
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2. here
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:44 AM
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3. ON September 3, the former editor of the Sarasota paper editorialized
against paperless voting, mentioned the Zogby poll of 92% support for public's rights to witness vote counting and obtain information about it, and mentioned the charter amendment without endorsement except to say eventually the govt will definitely have to deal with this issue, though certainly not by the 2006 elections and perhaps not 2008.

Quote:
"I will confine my
comments to national issues concerning voting, such as the fact ---- perhaps a critical fact for this election year ---- that there
is widespread public distrust of electronic voting machines.
How widespread? Well, a Zogby poll taken in August found 92 percent of Americans believe the public has the right
to view vote counting and to obtain information about how the votes are tallied. Eighty percent said election officials
should not rely exclusively on the proprietary software provided by vendors of electronic voting machines."
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:40 AM
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4. Update: here's how the Court ruled
Edited on Mon Sep-18-06 06:42 AM by welshTerrier2
source: http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060916/NEWS/609160360/1004


Voters in this Southwest Florida county will be able to decide in November whether to continue using computerized voting booths or go back to paper ballots, a circuit judge ruled.

County attorneys argued a proposed ballot initiative asking voters to choose between the county's current electronic voting and the old paper system was unconstitutional. But Circuit Judge Robert B. Bennett Jr. ruled Wednesday that the initiative was legal.
Sarasota is among several Florida counties that bought paperless touch-screen voting machines after the controversy surrounding paper ballots in the 2000 election.

A group called Sarasota Alliance for Fair Elections is challenging the reliability of the machines, saying electronic voting leaves no paper trail and is vulnerable to tampering.
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