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Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 04:04 PM by flyarm
with the voting machines in a general election!
That is not to take anything away from the Lawyers..they just could not do much to help.
maybe afterwards..whatever..
I was a poll watcher in the Dem Primary for my county in March 2004 , and in the State Primary Aug 31st 2004 , i was one of only 2 "at large " poll watchers for my county for Early vote which consisted of 2 weeks of voting , of which i worked every day of the 2 weeks of early vote, and i was a poll watcher for the General election Nov. 2004.
I was also an elected Delegate for Kerry for the 2004 Democratic Convention for the State of Florida.
During Early vote in Florida Kerry sent down many Lawyers to assist us in our election.
Many of the Lawyers were from out of state, Many had never even seen the DRE machines.
I had a real problem one day in early vote..I did a speaking engagement with Max Cleland the first day of early vote at the VA for the Vets and then we walked with the Vets to be the first to vote the opening day of early vote.
I then went to a polling place to take up poll watching.
I replaced a Florida Lawyer who worked the morning shift..
The lawyer sat "poll watching" from 630 am until i relieved him at 12:30 When i arrived the lawyer promptly left..
We were not allowed near the machines..which were in a separate room.
I requested to be allowed to be in the room with the machines. I was denied.
the POll watchers were designated to sit by a table in an area set up for people filling out Absentee ballots..
on the table, when i got there was a huge Flyer , map size ..with the republican candidates and with all Republican state office holders
It was illegal to have this fly er and the smaller carry copies of the fly er in open during an election, and yet the lawyer that was present all morning sat there with this stuff under his nose and he said nothing and did nothing about it.
I immediately had these flyer's removed as per the laws of an election.
a fight ensued with the man who ran the polling place ( a republican who worked for the supervisor of election) and myself over these flyer's.
but the Lawyer who sat there for 6 hours said nothing about them!
I then called the hotline for a lawyer to come and help me with this matter...
4 hours later a lawyer showed up and said not to make a "stink" about the flyers..
i asked for help getting access to see the machines..after all i was a poll watcher..if i could not see the machines or even the room the machines were in..what was i watching??
i was simply watching the lines of people waiting to vote..i could not see if people had difficulty voting or if there were any problems with the machines..i could see nothing , but people coming to vote absentee!
The lawyers who were supposed to be helping us and maintain the rights of the voters did nothing
i called and called and called the hotline for help, and got none.
the lawyers sent in many cases to Fla. from out of state, had no clue what to do.
and i was at the biggest voting place for early vote.
I was there for several days, and never got to ever see the voting machines..as no lawyers knew what to do about the situation.
It was on the 4th day , i got 2 lawyers from NY who came..after i again for the umpteenth time called the hotline...and they agreed with me and they removed physically the republican flyer's that were illegal..and they almost got in a fist fight with the guy ( who worked for the supervisor of elections) who was running the voting in the court house.
The only thing that stopped the fight was my husband intervened , as he came to bring me lunch when the pushing and shoving was going on..
and as the 2 NY Lawyers were leaving with my husband ..one of the lawyers leaned into me..and said.."now we know what you people down here are dealing with..you have nasty bubba's down here.."
Yes that is what the NY lawyer said to me when he left..and i was left with this man who then spent the next 10 hours staring at me trying to intimidate me...( but i am a jersey gal..and retired flt crew..i do not intimidate , so i stared back and smiled...all day..and into the night..)
i worked most days close to 15 hours each day, poll watching.
I called lawyers when people were being harassed in line to vote ( lines that were 3-4 hours long of a wait to vote)
in most cases it was hours before lawyers showed up. and when they did they didn't want to get "involved" in any skirmishes.
One day , 2 republican young ladies brought in a group of Retarded people to vote, they evidently picked them up from a mental hospital , and brought them to vote.
No over sight was taken with these people..this was at the Supervisor of election main offices..that was set up for early vote, with the supervisor in the building, with her offices right there..
as a poll watcher i was not allowed to talk to voters , only observe..and call the lawyers if there was a problem
well with no oversight by anyone of the retarded people..they were let loose on the machines by themselves.
one of these girls..went to the wrong side of a machine...and she began taking the machine apart..( it really broke my heart...but i wasn't there to take care of these people)
i began yelling for someone to stop what was going on with this particular machine..and i was ignored..i went to the registration desk and said the girl was dismantling the machine..it was ignored..i grabbed the lady who worked for the SOE and said stop that girl.. it was ignored...
the Retarded girl unwound the entire tape from the back of the machine..it was all over the floor and yet everyone working there ignored it..
i went running into the SOE's direct office and said..this needs to be stopped..please someone pay attention to what is going on in here.. ignored again..this retarded girl was at the machine for at least 10 minutes..taking the machine apart..
i then had to go out side and call the hotline for the "lawyer"
finally the SOE came into the room with the machines and stopped this girl from dismantling the machine
the machine was not taken out or marked out of order..
the poll worker merely rolled up as much of the paper roll that she could... that was now all over the floor..and shoved it back into the back of the machine..
and then called others in line to go vote on that machine..over my very loud very angry protests..
i wanted the machine to be put out of order...
no such luck..and i will never forget the man who first voted on that machine right after they "so called fixed the machine"..he was a big man with a Vets for Kerry teeshirt on ..and he was so happy to be voting for Kerry..
and i sat there helpless and knew damn well that his vote most likely did not count.
it took 2 hours for a Lawyer to show up..and for those two hours that machine prob had 150 votes on it that didn't register...
the lawyer did not want to get the machine shut down..until i threw such a hissy fit and said then damn it..get another lawyer here who will get it shut down.
I saw black people who were being intimidated in lines by rethugs( being asked for water or electric bills)..and no lawyers did jack squat about it..they didn't want to get into any ugliness..if they showed up at all..
I will say, i finally, on the last day of early vote got a lawyer who stayed with me all day..and he walked the lines, as i asked him to, to make sure people were not getting harrassed..
i saw every republican trick there was..and yet got almost no help from the lawyers who were supposed to be helping the people vote and keeping their voting rights preserved.
During the general election..the precinct i worked ..i never saw a lawyer once..although i called many times ..and no one ever showed up.
the repugs set up the precinct, doors down from another precinct..if the people walked into the precinct i was working and they were supposed to be down at the other precinct..instead of telling them to go less than a block down the street ..they made them fill out a provisional ballot..the poll worker who was in charge was old and it would take her over an hour per provisional ballot to caLL the SOE office..people were in lines..not to vote on the machines but to fill out the provisional ballots..that all anyone had to do was tell them ..go down the block ..thats where you vote..
but no...and i could get no lawyer come and help these people...
the rethugs had a lawyer who sat next to me all day..
i ended up going outside..and trying to catch people in the parking lot..and telling them if they were in the other precinct ..to go down the block..
of course i had to be careful as the rethug lawyer was more watching me than the fucking machines...
they had this game plan worked out to a t!!
i spent most of my day making sure people got to do the provisional ballots..as the poll worker was clueless and too old and didn't understand how to do them..in fact the first 20 done,i was basically doing them because this lady was incompetent.. but no lawyer came when i called the hotline dozens of times that day.
the repug lawyer was basically there to try to intimidate any dem poll watcher...again..i can not be intimidated...it ended up, i intimidated him much more. Because i made sure everyone who wanted to vote, who came there to vote..got to vote.
many of us poll watchers after the election spoke with each other at length..and said the same thing..what we needed was "computer geeks"..not lawyers..
the largest complaint for many people had voting on the machines were they were voting one candidate ( always Kerry, never bush) and the machine would show the other candidate.
so they would have to clear the machine and vote over and over until Kerry showed up..so they could enter their vote ..
the lawyers that we had,from all over the country mind you..had no clue what to do about this..
there was nothing we could do..any of us..
and i will say the biggest mistake i made the night of the 2004 election was to turn over all my paper work to the democratic party
i kept incredible records of all the problems.. i had a clip board and i had a stack of notes and complaints with people's names ..and addresses..
and it was taken from me the night of the election..after i was done at my precinct..and returned to the kerry campaign headquarters..there was someone there who collected all my notes and records..
and it went into the abyss..
i wish i had copied all my paperwork..i would have then had something to take to the newspapers...
and if i have any suggestion for anyone poll watching in NOV..do not turn over your paperwork ..to anyone..until you make copies!
because my husband helped out the two NY lawyers we have become fairly friendly with them..and they agree wholeheartedly..they were helpless to help us in Fla..
they didn't have a clue what to do..they were not versed in the machines.. ( they have lever machines in NY) they were outsiders in another state.. and there was very little they could do ..but be a pacifier.
And about the Bubba that got into the altercation with the 2 NY lawyers..i helped get him fired from working on any further voting work..
the supervisor of elections had a press conference in December of 2004..it was not open to democrats to attend...or the public ...only reporters..so i dressed like a reporter..and I infiltrated the meeting..i was never asked for Press ID and i just acted like i was a reporter.. and i walked in with the reporters...
i waited throughout the press meeting ..cameras and all..and when the meeting was coming to an end ..the supervisor of elections asked if there were any other questions..
and i said yes with cameras running..and i said i was a citizen..a citizen who did my civic duty as a poll watcher..i said i was a mother and a wife..and a citizen who takes civic duty very seriously..and i told her about the guy working one of the 3 voting places in my county for early vote, the guy worked in the court house for early vote..and i told her about his intimidation tactics..and how he refused to allow the poll watchers access to seeing the voting machines...
to say the least..the Supervisor was in shock..that i got into the press conference number 1..
and her love fest with the press and reporters was disrupted by a lady who refused to say..it was ok...to steal our election.
Bubba was removed from his duties.
fly
p.s. i worked extensively with Andy Stephenson to train people in my county to work on election reform..we have great, great people now working in election reform..and they have done Andy Proud..in fact this week our election reform people even made it on LOU DOBBS..along with the League of Women voters who now are on top of what is going on..( they weren't perviously on board) and now are because of VoteTrustUSA !....(the Voting group Andy was co -founder of.) and our group of voting reform people!....
I thank each and everyday those citizens in my community who have worked so hard to save our elections, they do it with no outside money,with no fanfare.. and all on their own dime..and they spend more hours, than any of us have in one day..working for all of us!! And for preserving our voting rights.
ohh and ..believe this..you as a citizen can do more than anoyone , by being a poll watcher..or a poll worker..i urge people to go to a training near you ..amd do your civic duty..and be a poll watcher..and do what you can to help other Americans get their right , their god given right under our constitution to vote..there is nothing more important than that today!
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