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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 11:42 AM
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NOT a good year to be a Republican.-The Hart-Luntz Polling Roadshow
August 22, 2006 4:20 PM
NCSL: THE HART-LUNTZ POLLING ROADSHOW
Lots of laughs but still bad news for GOP say both
The political tsunami early-warning system, otherwise known as the National Conference of State Legislatures, closed up shop last week with one message emerging crystal clear.

It’s not a good year to be a Republican.
And those were the Republicans speaking. The executive director of the Republican Legislative Campaign Committee predicted the GOP had a 50-50 chance of losing the U.S. House alongside predictions of net losses in the statehouses.

Republican pollster Frank Luntz spun it into a punch line, but he was equally bleak. His message to Republicans in 2006: Go home and get a better job. He stopped himself, then said, "Don’t worry about it, you’re going to be getting a new job."

Luntz and Democratic pollster Peter Hart closed the conference with their take on what might transpire on Election Day. Both high-profile pollsters said their data depict a public angrier than at any time since 1994.

The rest of the story, subscribers only
http://www.quorumreport.com/ Go to daily buzz..

ã Copyright August 22, 2006 by Harvey Kronberg, www.quorumreport.com, All rights are reserved

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 11:46 AM
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1. 1994?? Oh, please--that was a bit of pique compared to today. NT
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 11:48 AM
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2. Yeah, then, it was all about a bunch of "bounced checks"
and now we have "overdraft protections" available in banks ...
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 11:49 AM
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3. Well, these are repubs talking to repubs..LOL ..I did think the same thing
Edited on Wed Aug-23-06 11:57 AM by Melissa G
myself about the difference in both outrage and outrageous behavior between then and now. Though, the laugh is a sad, bizarre one that I am having...much like my current world experience...

edit clarity
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 11:50 AM
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4. If the GOP pulls this out, it will be because of voting fraud.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 12:36 PM
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10. Election Fraud!
Edited on Wed Aug-23-06 12:37 PM by acmejack
PLease, please, please! It is of crucial importance! They like to imply voting fraud suggesting It is the actual voters cheating, which they put at our doorstep, election fraud is the issue we want to talk about. DREs!

edit: for spulling
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 12:01 PM
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5. frank luntz should choke on his polling.
he feeds his info like mother's milk to baby right to rove.

luntz is one of the founders of modern era repuke tactics -- i.e. estate tax becomes death tax, using global climate change instead of global warming, etc.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 12:02 PM
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6. I think he is choking on it.. THAT is the point of the post..
It is so bad there is no way to spin it good...even for them...
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 12:13 PM
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8. fingers crossed.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 12:05 PM
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7. Oh, he will...his chickens are coming home to roost
When half his GOP customers lose their seats, old fattyjowls will have to tighten his belt because his payday will take a similar slashing.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 12:16 PM
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9. i hope you're right madem -- but i have thoughts
about beltway liberal strategists and their ineffectiveness at dealing with the repuke message for the last 16 years{really since reagan -- but that's another story} and frank luntz is one of the key figures designing repuke gains.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 12:42 PM
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11. I'm not the only one who thinks it--check out this article from last year
This guy thinks he's a WEENIE http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-carol/frank-luntz-is-a-weenie_b_933.html

.....See Frank, if you don’t know him, is the self-proclaimed genius of using focus groups to find the right words to sell just about anything. And he’s made a career of doing it for Newt Gingrich, George Bush, Republican candidates and loads of corporations.

But this isn’t about Republican v. Democratic stuff – at all. In fact, there are lots of folks on both sides of the aisle (like Robert F Kennedy, Jr. and John McCain of StopGlobalWarming.org, and the Set America Free, Apollo Alliance and Reenergize America coalitions) who are transcending party politics and coming together to spur creative new efforts to create US energy independence. Serious folks – who get that the Bush-Cheney-Luntz energy policy is for the dinosaurs.

Now let’s be clear. I am not ticked off that Frank Luntz is exercising his right to sell his view of the world (drill more oil and build extra nukes with massive taxpayer subsidies) but that the sum total of what he is selling and spinning falls so woefully short of achieving anything close to US energy independence -- while American troops are literally in harm’s way.

That level of political gamesmanship seems to me, in a word, to be UNCONSCIONABLE.

Now I should point out this is hardly the first time (or second, or third) that Mr. Luntz has been called a misleading blowhard or had his ethics questioned.

But maybe it was the first time he was called out as a policy poser with a few of his friends and funders on the cc of the email. Yup, I did that on purpose and he got kinda of mad and refused to debate in a curt response. ..........
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 02:15 PM
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12. that's way, way cool -- i love it --
but i'm gonna want to see it in action among our candidates.

big time.

hackett was a weird kind of start, lamont is light coming in the window -- and kerry has remarkable improvement -- but i'm gonna wanna to see more.

so here's fingers crossed.
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