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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:00 PM
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Reminder: 17 States at High Risk For Compromised Election Results
If you're in one of these states, speak up!

States designated as high risk because they use DREs with no paper backup are: Arkansas, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia.

Twenty-three states are at mid-level risk of having election results compromised. Those states use a voter-verified paper trail, but do not conduct manual audits. Eleven states are at "low" risk for a compromised election because
they require mandatory audits and use voting systems that have a voter verified paper ballot.

http://www.electionintegritymn.org/common_cause_electronic_voting_risk_malfunction
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:02 PM
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1. States like Kansas, South Carolina and Texas
I wouldn't have thought they'd need to steal, I figured they have enough true believers to win honestly.
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Catbird Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 04:33 PM
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11. Padding vote totals
If you want to increase the total popular vote for a Republican candidate for president, South Carolina will do just fine. No one would be surprised at the outcome, and any "extra" votes would not draw attention.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 07:26 PM
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12. From SC here too...
And I have been saying the same thing ever since the 2004 election...that the vote was padded in places like SC. I don't believe for a minute that Bush won the popular vote, they just made sure that it looked like he did. And I also seriously question as to whether Demint actually won!
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:35 PM
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13. KS is very conservative and pretty much undisputed in a prez election but
now there are 22 counties with paperless electronic voting machines. There used to be only 3. The biggest is Johnson County (Kansas City KS). Sedwick County (Wichita), next biggest, has ES&S iVotronic and optiscans with a paper trail but no audits.

Robert Beattie, a Dem candidate for secy of state in KS lost in the primary to David Haley, a non-entity as far as electronic voting machines are concerned, at least no indication he knows or suspects anything could be wrong with electronic voting. Beattie was very up on the issue, had made some very good suggestions (a non-partisan elections commission to take over handling elections instead of the Sec of State, e.g., also paper trails and audits required).

Beattie, however, lost in the primary statewide by about 216 votes. Of course no recount. First of all, the primaries are apparently not covered by state law as re recounts for close elections. Second, of course, now 22 counties don't even have the capability to recount. I wdn't be surprised if Diebold in Johnson wasn't calibrated to give Haley the election. Sedgwick went strongly for Beattie and I don't think the ES&S machines cheated (no way to know of course).

We have Ron Thornburgh, present Sec of State, to thank for this situation. He's proud of his role in the writing and extension of Bob Ney's HAVA law and a lover of un-audited electronic technology. He will of course triumph over Haley by, I'm guessing, 40% (conservative estimate, in more ways than one), naturally no recount for such a landslide.

Of course, KS wd probably vote Repub anyway, but it's not nearly as certain as some wd have you believe. It wd be interesting to see what KS wd do if the votes were definitely counted fairly.

Beattie, if he had won, cd have done an excellent job of diseminating info about the voting machines, and might have pursued some litigation if he lost, demanding recounts where there was reason to suspect fraud.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:06 PM
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2. Shouldn't Ohio be on the list?
Paper trail or not, they've proven that when forced to do a recount they'll cheat. Blackwell is worth 100 DRE machines.

And to top it off, Blackwell is running for Governor and handling the election at the same time. I think that Ohio should be #1, or #2 behind Florida.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:08 PM
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3. Iowa uses both tablators with paper ballots
and DREs in some precincts. So a mixed system with some ability to recount by hand.
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JAYJDF Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:30 PM
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4. ALASKA. Hasn't the regime up there refused to recount?
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:43 PM
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5. I'd keep an eye on MInnesota as well
even though we use optical scanners with paper ballots. Especially the senate race and the 6th District Congressional race and, to a slightly lesser degree, the governor's race. There appeared to be some strange goings on in the 6th District 2 years ago when the Green party suddenly had 7,000 votes for their candidate out of one area in the district (and this is not a district that would go Green), then the tally was changed. I think one of the Minnesota DUers has or had a screen shot of this.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:05 PM
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15. I've always thought Mondale lost in 02 in MN due to the ES&S scanners.
What's your take on that?

The scanners are just as easily rigged or maliciously programmed and in some ways they go under the radar because they have the paper to back them up. The problem is there's no provision in most states for audits as far as I know, and the paper is absolutely useless unless you have audits.

Does MN require any audits?
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:16 PM
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6. How did I know my state was up there
Just because my voting machine defaulted to Bush 5 times in 2004, oh well, maybe, I will have
a chance to vote 5 times for Bob Ehrlich when I push the button for O'Malley this time.

Oh, Maryland, My Maryland.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:26 PM
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7. link to the Common Cause report?
Edited on Mon Aug-07-06 08:31 PM by garybeck
the article cites a new report from Common Cause. but doesn't provide a link.
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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:40 PM
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8. link to common cause report
Edited on Mon Aug-07-06 08:45 PM by diva77
http://www.commoncause.org/site/pp.asp?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&b=1808817

just because I am posting link does not mean that I agree with contents of the article
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:28 AM
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10. PDF: Malfunction and Malfeasance: Report on EVoting Machine Debacle
Here's a PDF of the entire report:

http://www.commoncause.org/atf/cf/{FB3C17E2-CDD1-4DF6-92BE-BD4429893665}/MALFUNCTION%20AND%20MALFEASANCE%20REPORT.PDF


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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:31 PM
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9. Initial e-vote totals exceed # of registered voters in Stewart Co. TN
Errors delay election results in Stewart Co.
By BONNIE LILL
Stewart-Houston Times

Voting totals in Stewart County were delayed for several hours for several reasons, said election officials.

A longer ballot — similar to problems reported across the state — led to people being in precinct lines long after polls closed after 7 p.m.

But a problem with a reports generated by the MicroVote machine also delayed results until 12:45 a.m. Friday.

On election night Thursday, a technician with MicroVote generated a report showing incorrect vote totals. The error was spotted by Election Commission member Ronnie Byrd who noticed vote totals for districts that exceeded the number of voters.

It was determined that in the cumulative reports, the early and absentee votes were being added in twice. The report generated captured all votes cast for a candidate when the Election Commission just needed the votes cast Thursday.

<snip>
Originally published August 5, 2006

http://theleafchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060805/NEWS01/608050347/1002
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:38 PM
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14. It might be useful to look at this list side by side with a list
of states that we know are being infiltrated or manipulated by political operatives.

Like, say, CALIFORNIA.

lol
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