We have two years to convince Al Gore that the voting machines

[garybeck]

are more of an obstacle than whoever his opponent is going to be.

We shouldn't wait until the 11th hour.

[blm]

1. You think he hasn't heard of it? Friends sent him a tape for Current TV

a couple months ago, but, they couldn't have been the first to do it.

[garybeck]

3. i'm sure he's heard of it, but hearing about it isn't enough

he needs to KNOW about the problem, not just "heard of it." sending him a tape is a good start but we need to do more.

[jobycom]

2. Somehow, I think Al Gore knows everything, and just smiles affectionately

at our petty attempts to educate him.

[garybeck]

4. sarcasm noted...

I don't think he's nearly as pompous as the ones in charge now.

[jobycom]

7. I didn't put it there, I meant that seriously.

Humorously, but seriously. I'm sure Gore knows more about the issue than any of us hear, and if he swore to me that the machines weren't a problem, I'd believe him.

[OnTheOtherHand]

13. no one knows everything

but I agree, Gore works harder at forming his opinions than any other politician I can think of.

Gore. Bush. Ah, hell, I think I'll have another drink now.

[Warpy]

5. You mean we need to convince our state Democratic Party

poohbahs of that little fact, since they're the ones in a position to start suing over them. There's not a whole lot Gore can do about it, candidate or not.

That has been accomplished in NM, where a particularly nasty lawsuit over the simple disenfranchisment of 17,000+ voters in 2004 is still grinding through the courts and has already forced a return to 100% paper, optical scan ballots.

[garybeck]

6. yeah, that too. but a candidate CAN do a lot.

for one, he can ask for a recount in areas with strange results.

[nolies32fouettes]

8. umm...silly question...but why only Al Gore? What if he's just not

interested.

Does that mean the rest of the democratic party can stay home and doesn't need to care about the voting machines and the supression?

Open your eyes. It's not just Al Gore who needs convincing...or we may as well wait for the next messiah.

[lindisfarne]

9. 2 years? try a few months. If we take on of the houses, we can greatly

slow down the republicans for the next 2 years.

[applegrove]

10. Why don't we wait until there is exacting evidence? Otherwise there

is lots of evidence of all manner of voter suppression..but nothing specific on voting machines so far.

Just like with TruthOut and Liepold. Let's wait. We need more info. Let's see what the GOP cooks up as the election draws near. What hoops and fees will they (or have they) instituted to make it hard for new registrations?

Come on..there is lots of voter suppression. Don't just focus on the one.

Or you will separate yourself from those who don't just go on-a-feeling. But require more details and facts before they believe.

[garybeck]

11. give me a friggin break.

first of all, yes there is evidence. where have you been? maybe if there was a real recount in Ohio or New Mexico we'd have what you're looking for, but those were both thwarted. Or if there was a printout on DREs there would be some evidence, but that's no available either.

the problem goes far beyond evidence. the problem is that private companies simply have the ability to change election results without being detected. Isn't that enough of a problem for you?

You can sit and wait for "evidence." I'm trying to save our democracy.

comparing this to Leopold is quite silly.

[applegrove]

12. No it isn't. You are going on a feeling. You don't trust the Repukes

further than you can throw them. You are right. But that isn't evidence or details. What Leopold was missing.

Sorry. But nobody one WWII on a feeling. They won by fighting with might, intellect, empathy & discernment.

You cannot leave any of "adulthood" out.

You either have the facts or it is speculation. So be clear.