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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 01:07 AM
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DNC contacts Brad--they're looking into Busby/Bilbray race in CA
See new Bradblog post:

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2953

This blog entry also contains Busby's less-than-enlightened email about her early concession and related topics.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 01:19 AM
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1. What a fuckin' bozo of a candidate.
Hopefully, she'll win the recount - unless she fucks that up like she did her campaign.
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cagoldensun5050 Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 01:33 AM
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2. I agree
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 01:41 AM
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3. I think bradblog is doing a good job, but Busby is walking a fine line
she has another election in November and she can't afford to alienate people or worse yet, get more of the Republican base motivated to vote.

Bradblog is doing a good job of alerting the public to the problems associated with sending Diebold machines home with pollworkers for up to 2 weeks, in spite of the huge risk of tampering (see http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2950&print=1 ). But he's being overly critical of Francine Busby, and failing to take into consideration what factors she has to weigh in order to have the best chance of winning in November.

In fact, this isn't just a problem with the 50th district - it's a problem with all of San Diego county, which includes 49, 50, 51, 52, and 53 districts.
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monarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 03:33 AM
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5. I keep wanting to like Bradblog
but I find it unreadable--the colors, the layout and the generally cluttered appearance drive me crazy.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 03:46 AM
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6. Me too.
I don't use IE, but, if it's anything like Mozilla, you can go into preferences and change your options so the the site will display in your chosen colors and backgrounds, instead of the ones specified by the site.

Somehow many folks don't realize that light characters on a dark background, anything other than dark on white, makes for difficulties in readability. This problem increases with the viewer's age, as well.
I generally stay away from bradblog for that very reason, since I prefer to try to display DU in its intended layout and hate to have to fuss with constantly going into the color changes to get a better read.
Once in a while is ok and I will do so if it's important.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 04:34 AM
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7. I agree. I've only read it a few times. But since he's been covering
Edited on Tue Jun-13-06 04:35 AM by lindisfarne
the "take home the voting machines" situation, I've been trying to sort through it. But for almost anything else, I wouldn't bother. Way too much clutter. And if I find a different source for this, I'd quickly switch!
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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 02:29 PM
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13. Even with his site layout, I'd rather quit than switch.
Edited on Tue Jun-13-06 02:32 PM by JimDandy
Although I posted below that his info is invaluable, it's his style of delivery (wording not the site itself,) his insistence on accuracy, and his access to reputable sources that really keep me coming back.

Now, if he would PLEASE just revamp his site so I can quit taking Dramamine a half-hour before reading his blog!

edit: changed 'above' to 'below'
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 09:30 PM
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17. Brad blog now with black on white option!
This from Bradblog:

Black on White versions of BRAD BLOG Stories are now available by selecting "PRINT VERSION" at the bottom of every article. We'll have more intutive, permanent color selections, for those averse to green on yellow, in the upcoming weeks. Hopefully this helps for now, however. -- Brad
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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:55 PM
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22. THANKS!
Wow what a difference in readability the black on white makes--it's so much better. Way to go, Brad!
:applause:
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:28 AM
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10. You might let Brad know. He is receptive to feedback and would
probalby appreciate knowing.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 01:57 PM
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11. Thank you!
I'm a good 'splainer, I'll do it!
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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 02:16 PM
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12. His info is invaluable, but the site leaves me feeling seasick.
I can't stay on it very long, due to all of the reasons you listed!
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 09:08 AM
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9. Your post is music to the ears of election theives.

The closer the vote, the easier it is to steal an election.

I don't want MY vote conceded. I want it counted.

It's not about the candidate. It's about the People.

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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 06:31 PM
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14. Exactly how do you conclude that? The issue in San Diego is *not*
only about the Busby district. It is also about the 53rd district (Susan Davis), 51st district (Bob Filner), 49th (Issa - Rep) and 52nd district (Hunter (Rep)) hold these, but since there's no chance of a Democrat winning, the Dems in the primary could protest voting machines being taken home).

Busby is not the only person who can be making a fuss over this election law violation. And yes, it is very important to think about the effect of her making a fuss in such an overwhelmingly Republican district.

It is about the candidate and the campaign, and the strategic factors, unless you're willing to lose in November as a result of your insisting that Busby and no one else can speak up.

Please think before making such ridiculous statements.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 09:24 PM
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16. Your post is music to the ears of election theives.

The closer the vote, the easier it is to steal an election.

I don't want MY vote conceded. I want it counted.

It's not about the candidate. It's about the People.


That doesn't suggest there aren't a lot of things for Busby to consider, or the other candidates (whose races/margins I'm not familiar with).

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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 09:49 PM
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18. Well, you may be willing to sacrifice Nov. and may (incorrectly) believe
Edited on Tue Jun-13-06 09:54 PM by lindisfarne
Busby is the one who must lead with the complaints about the San Diego election law violations, but you're ignoring the fact that there are dozens of other Democratic candidates also affected by these violations.

I'll be much happier if Boxer or Davis or Filner or the DNC lead the way, and Busby stays quiet (and thereby doesn't motivate the overwhelmingly Republican voters in that district to turn out in Nov.)
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:00 PM
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19. OK Like this.
1. I never said Busby is the only one who should speak up.
2. I never said the other candidates shouldn't.
3. Think about what we got, in the last two presidential elections, in return for accepting a questionable count.
4. "Strategic factors" I can appreciate, but...
5. I strongly disagree with your statement, "It is about the candidate and the campaign..."
6. In a democracy, it's the vote that counts.

It's not that I don't appreciate your concern. But I don't sense it is mindful of mine.

Give it to them. They'll come back and steal another one.

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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:12 PM
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20. When did I *ever* say we should accept a questionable count?
Edited on Tue Jun-13-06 10:26 PM by lindisfarne
Haven't I said over and over again that the DNC and/or someone in a secure seat or who isn't in a close election in November should speak out?

The statement I made (see below) is about YOU, the VOTER - about getting another DEMOCRATIC seat in Congress. The context I made this statement in was "who should speak out about the election violations".

And in determining WHO should speak out, one must consider the candidate, the campaign, and the strategic factors -- and in doing all this, one must conclude that Busby is the absolute last choice among San Diego democrats running for House seats as to who should speak out about the election violations - everyone else is either in a secure seat, or has no chance of winning. Busby, in contrast, is in a close race in November, she could win, but her speaking out could motivate the Republicans in this overwhelmingly republican district to vote in November.

"It is about the candidate and the campaign, and the strategic factors, unless you're willing to lose in November as a result of your insisting that Busby and no one else can speak up."
-----------------------
And you *did* say Busby should speak up -- you did in your reply to my msg. #3
I was criticizing Brad for (1) calling for Francine to speak up, but (2) not calling for anyone else in San Diego county to speak up.

You then tell me that MY saying this is "music to the ears of election thieves".

The only way to interpret your criticism of what I said is that you believe (1) Busby should speak up and (2) no one else should speak up.



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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:14 PM
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21. "The only way to interpret"?

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 01:55 AM
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4. Well...
Dear Universe, please don't let it be true that such ignorance exist in a political candidate...sigh

but then again, let her concede according to her wishes - it is not about her - it is about the integrity of each vote being counted

We will recount (hopefully) - now that Brad, after all these years, finally has gotten the attention of the DNC
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 07:42 AM
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8. Kicking - off to class - will return! Go Brad! (nt)
:applause:

And may I say - I am truly sorry for donating to the Busby campaign. I am ANGRY, ANGRY, ANGRY at everyone who said I should donate to her AND THEN DID NOT make sure she was educated about FRAUD.

:grr:
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 06:33 PM
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15. Why do you believe Susan Davis and Bob Filner should not be the
Edited on Tue Jun-13-06 07:21 PM by lindisfarne
ones speaking up? They're also Democrats in San Diego county who were also affected by the election law violation. They have very secure house seats. Barbara Boxer and the DNC should be looking into these election law violations. (From Bradblog: "{Michael Haas, the SD County Registrar of Voters]} also confirmed that both Diebold touch-screen (DRE) and optical-scan systems were sent home with poll workres in the days and weeks prior to the election." http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2956 )

If you know anything about the 50th district (Busby's), you know it's overwhelmingly Republican. Are you aiming to motivate more Republicans to turn out in November?

I quite frankly think Busby should be fairly quiet and allow others in San Diego county to fight this out. Winning the November seat is far more important. She doesn't need to speak out, especially when there's the danger of motivating more Republicans to vote in November, because there are other Democrats who should be equally outraged by the election law violations and the failure to maintain chain of custody on the voting machines.

The 50th district seat is one that the Dems have a reasonable chance of winning in November - which would put us one seat closer to a majority.
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