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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 01:25 PM
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Researching Russ Baker who wrote on tompaine.com
a piece pooh-poohing election fraud stories. I'm supposed to tape a show starting in 45 minutes or so for WBAI/Pacifica in New York, for an hour or two. I'll be on the phone so if anybody has any resources or comments you can PM or email me probably until 3 p.m. EST
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:20 PM
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1. When will the show air?
I want to be sure to catch you!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:20 PM
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2. You probably already saw this from crisispapers
Edited on Sun Mar-05-06 02:25 PM by glitch
http://www.crisispapers.org/essays-p/fraud.htm

"Russ Baker displays a paradigm example of the smarmy contempt heaped upon the skeptics by the defenders of “the official view.” Baker thus begins his TomPaine.com article:

Many of us fear that the Ohio election was stolen because people—like talk show sleuths, blogger number-crunchers, forensic attorneys, crusading professors and partisan activists—keep telling us so. We don't even know most of these people, yet we gladly forward their e-mails and Web links, their pronouncements, analyses, essays and statistical exercises. While their credentials may not be that impressive, we listen to their conspiracy theories because—frightened by the direction our country has taken—we want to believe them.

We “fear” a stolen election “because people ... keep telling us so?” No!, we suspect fraud on the basis of compelling evidence. It is the “establishment” that is attempting to convince the public that the election was copasetic, on little more than repeated “say-so.”

We “don’t know who these people are?” “Their credentials may not be that impressive”? Pay attention, Mr. Baker, while we introduce just a few of “these people” (i.e., “crusading professors”) and cite their “credentials.” Dr. Steven Freeman (University of Pennsylvania), Dr. Peter Caithamer (University of Southern Indiana), Dr. Ron Baiman, (University of Chicago), Dr. David Dill (Stanford University), Dr. Michael Hout and Associates (UC Berkeley Quantitative Methods Research Team), Dr. Avi Rubin (Johns Hopkins University), Chuck Herrin (computer security expert and “white-hat hacker”), and many, many more. But you get the point. (For long lists of articles and links dealing with Electoral Integrity and Election 2004 Fraud see The Crisis Papers).

Baker then cites his investigations of several “charges” made by the skeptics. Consider this one: “Charge: Miscounting of absentee votes. Finding: False.” His evidence? The testimony of one – just one – witness to one – just one – event.

There’s more to this article, but having seen this much, why bother to continue?"


edit: more about Russ from his own site: http://www.russbaker.com/aboutruss.htm proclaiming himself as a muckraker is a bit of a hoot, considering his corporate media view of election fraud.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:10 PM
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4. What a pecker head!
he's a damn whore, shilling for the thieves. At most a pimp. A brazen rip-off artist. A creep. He better hope he never gets close to me, I'd have him crying his eyes out, hiding behind his mother's skirts, seeking selter from a hurricane force election reform.

Can ya tell I am really getting pissed at assholes like this?
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:54 PM
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3. Get this: Russ Baker REFUSED to debate me, saying he'd only
debate Mark Crispin Miller, who wasn't able to make it.... So, it will have to be rescheduled and I likely won't be on whatsoever. If anyone sees Russ Baker around, tell him i'll debate him anytime, anywhere. If he's up to it.

As an attempt at substitution here for acmejack on election issues, just posted the last day or two is a 29 minute show i did at

www.hotpotatomedia.com go to "archived audio" link and scroll down to the 2/4/06 show interview with Paul Lehto
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